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Name: giggles
i read that amd is discontinuing the athlon xps and mps and pumping out this sempron chip with half the cache!
my friend is coming over so that i can help him shop for a new pc and i was going to reccommend a 2500 barton, what should i tell him?does this mean that the price of xps and mps is gonna shoot up cuz i want to buy an Athlon XP 2500 mobile soemtime in the future like when the price goes down to uber cheapness but if its going to go into high demand then the price is gonna shoot up
so i guess what im asking is, what does the future hold for the Athlon xp and mobile processors?what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other
Supposedly the Sempron is the new budget CPU to go up against the Celeron...it will replace the Duron. The Athlon XP will be produced into 2005. If you read between the lines at the AMD Sempron FAQ website, it appears the market will then be evaluated to determine how much longer the XP will continue to be produced.
Some of the Semprons will be based on the XP core, & some will be stripped down versions of the Athlon 64...but these will only be 32-bit processors. It appears they will only have 256kb of L2 cache. Some will be socket A chips, & others will be socket 754...the newer Athlon64 has gotten a new socket (socket 939).
Here's a few sites for ya to chew on:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_11546%7E88040,00.html
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_11546%7E88041,00.html
http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040728-4045.html
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3387051
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thnx jam ill check that out, but right now the family needs the internet
ahhhhhhhhhwhat is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other
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It looked to be a promising chip if they had actually priced the CPU's like they originally were planning, but the amount is so insignificantly less than the full Athlon XP's that it's a waste of money.
Even the Athlon 64 version of it is only $30 less, and you lose 64-bit support AND half the cache?! The only thing I see that's good in that CPU is it might overclock better than an Athlon 64, but still, that's an awful lot to give up for $30!
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Sounds like stuff I heard about the Duron when it was introduced.
Here's my prediction: The Sempron will make more folks happy for less money than the Duron did.
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Hopefully the mobile Sempron will be a winner just like the mobile Athlons....
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The Duron when first released was a great value though. It was significantly cheaper than the Athlon. I built quite a few of them...
But when the Athlon XP's started getting down into the $50 range, it just didn't make any sense to use them. I haven't built a Duron based machine in the last year.
In the XP line, I don't see any point in them, but in the A64 line, the on die memory controller makes for a KILLER gaming box! But like I said...If someone can afford $120 on a CPU, surely they could afford $150 to gain 64-bit support and the extra cache!
Originally they had the Sempron 64-bit priced I believe at $100 for the 2800 Socket 754! That would have made it a great value for the budget conscious power user, but at $120, in my opinion, that puts the CPU to close to the 2800 Athlon 64. :-/
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I'm aware of all that. The Duron prices were relatively high at their introduction too; then went down dramatically.
My prediction stands.
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Duron 700 hit the streets at ~200 bucks. By the time I bought mine, a mobo combo was less than a hundred bucks locally.
Look for big price drops.
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i can tell these processors are really gonna suck and i want to avoid them at all costs just like the celerons
but i hope they dont sell so well that amd cans production of the Athlon xp's and mp's
what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other
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Why would you want AMD to can production of the XP? It's a great low cost chip!
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"but i hope they dont sell so well that amd cans production of the Athlon xp's and mp's"
i understand when i dont make sense, Hero, but i just wrote that i hope the semprons DONT sell so well that AMD decides to can xp and mp production
i like the xp and mps as much as everyone else thats part of the reason why i started this thread
AMD,
if you're out there please dont can production of the Athlon XP and MP processors. its just gonna make consumers bitter and resentful, especially those of us who have been waiting patiently for so long to get an Athlon XP setup from a retail box because we cant afford a $175 processor.
just ask my friend justyn, he's been using his celeron 400 box since his family bought it in 1998
sure justyn could spend his $55 on some sempron or duron pos but he isnt that budget minded, he wants quality and performance for his money, and those things are exactly what the athlon xp and mps processors deliver^(-.-)~~~]>:}>
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yeah but you know whats stupid is a bought a athlon xp 2400 thorton.And its a barton with half the cache and its 2 ghz which is faster than a sempron of same price i think.Also its still cheap compared to most xps.
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yeah but you know how amd likes to jack up the price of new cpus
wait a while and the sempron should be much cheaperwhat is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other
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