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virtual memory question, help me

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Name: rob
Date: December 27, 2002 at 20:55:07 Pacific
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: 512 memory
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I have 512 memory in my pc. I wanted to know what the virtual memory settings should be set at.

when I had it set at 768 I got some weird choppiness in my games like a warp sensation. When I set it to 1536 the problem went away. I have an 80 gig HDD with 70 gig left. Thanks for any tips



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Response Number 1
Name: p4sucks
Date: December 27, 2002 at 22:02:33 Pacific
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you need to let windows handle virtual memory.


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Response Number 2
Name: rob
Date: December 27, 2002 at 23:32:24 Pacific
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hmmmmm can you tell me why? I am curious. My system seems to run better when I changed it. If it is harmful then I will set it back but an explanation would be beneficial.


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Response Number 3
Name: Balram Adlakha
Date: December 28, 2002 at 07:57:32 Pacific
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WHy? Let windoze set it???
Its your computer not windoze's!
Do whatever you want with your system, and don't let the microshaft OS rob you of your freedom.

I mean c'mon! how can increasing the amount of virtual memory (as the silly OS calls it) be harmful!


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Response Number 4
Name: UTLLAMA
Date: December 28, 2002 at 11:29:10 Pacific
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I agree with P4Sucks!

It isn't an issue of "microshaft OS rob you of your freedom." It's an issue of PERFORMANCE.

Unlike previous windows versions, XP does a much better job at managing VMEM. Improperly set, it's entirely possible that XP can/will page to your hard drive VMEM before utilizing actual RAM, thus dramatically impairing performance. Depending on what type of applications you run most frequently, you could try to disable VMEM altogether. If you experience problems, restart your system and reenable to allow XP to manage VMEM.


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Response Number 5
Name: fletch
Date: December 29, 2002 at 07:58:45 Pacific
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I run Win 98, and was always told to set this at a number equal to double the amount of physical ram you have. Never tried it on XP. My system runs good this way. Give it a try, can't hurt anything.
jim f


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Response Number 6
Name: Balram Adlakha
Date: December 29, 2002 at 09:37:43 Pacific
Reply:

Alright, agreed, the silly OS manages VMEM (uhh) well, BUT, it can't always set it at the right balance...
ie. having too much VMEM will decrease the amount of RAM for other things and vice versa...so you have to find the right balance...

and I'm going to feel sick thinking about VITUAL mem...and there is nothing virtual about it, nor is it new for an OS to put parts in memory, since almost all unix type OSs (ex GNU/Linux) use it...

And the amount of such memory you should use also depends on the type of work you do on your computer. For people who do heavy gaming, CAD/CAM or heavy applications will prefer to make the RAM available to these programs instead of the OS...


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Response Number 7
Name: fletch
Date: December 29, 2002 at 11:49:23 Pacific
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I should clarify that the virtual memory in Windows is created as a file on the hard drive, not in ram. Accessing ram is much faster than accessing the hard drive, so if the application needs more memory, add all the ram you can afford. Windows still needs a swapfile (virtual memory), for reasons that I can't answer.

I might add, the reason your computer runs faster when you set the virtual memory size manually is because of the fact that the size never changes. When you set the size, Windows creates a file of that size all in one contiguous area of the hard drive. This will always be faster to access than the variable size cache (virtual memory), because when Windows grows the file larger, it uses scattered areas of free space for it's cache. Same principal as a fragmented hard drive, as opposed to the drive after a defrag.


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Response Number 8
Name: p4sucks
Date: December 29, 2002 at 18:39:41 Pacific
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Balram....then how would you know how much V.memory winodows needs at all times? You cant. You can guess. But if windows needs more and cant get more because you have it set manually then you will get errors or slow downs. Thats why its preferred to leave it up to windows to manage v.memory since it is windows that uses v.memory and not the user.


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Response Number 9
Name: p4sucks
Date: December 29, 2002 at 18:41:49 Pacific
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And also. V.memory does not decrease the amount of Ram for other programs.


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Response Number 10
Name: JMano808
Date: January 3, 2003 at 06:54:24 Pacific
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You tell em' P4Sucks.
I have a P4 and I'm really happy with my results I get as a die hard gamer I will probaly own you in Tokara Forest with my Flack blazing and lightning striking from above. UT2K3 ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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