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Name: Goodfella
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:00:49 Pacific
Subject: Very cool idle temps
OS: windows xp sp2
CPU/Ram: athlon xp 2800 1gb pc2700
Comment:

Hey guys maybe my post on flashing my radeon pro wasnt much to talk about but check this out instead.Ive got my processor and video card rigged to run very cool at idle temps and also on a high load too.How i did it well i have a thermalright heatsink for my athlon xp 2400 and a rewired tornado 80mm fan set on low speed.Ive got a idle temp of 39C with no case fans on and case open.As for my video card i have the arctic cooling rev 3 but since it didnt work as well on my card i removed the fan and stuck a panaflo right on top of it.Now my temps for gpu is also 39C at idle temp.Ive got bga heatsinks on ram also so the temps is about the same.So is this low for non water cooling or what?


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Response Number 1
Name: Goodfella
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:12:08 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Oh yes i didnt say my temp ofr my athlon before was about 46C or little higher at idle.And the gpu was at 51C while the memory was 46C and thats a good drop id say!


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:34:51 Pacific
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Your temps are good, but nothing to write home about...it's not like you uncovered the lost secret to cooling...lol

For the most part, RAM heatsinks are unnecessary & a waste of money...& running with the side cover off should be a temporary thing only.

IMO, water cooling is a waste of money...it's expensive, requires maintenance, & has the potential for disaster. And usually, the temps are no better than with good air cooling.

Install a couple of case fans & put the cover back on. AMD recommends an intake fan in the front of the case, an exhaust fan just below the PSU, & the PSU should have dual fans, with the 2nd fan on the bottom, just above the CPU.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348%5E1065,00.html


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Response Number 3
Name: tleible
Date: August 29, 2004 at 10:36:34 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Jam,

Tell us how your really feel about water cooling. LOL!

AMD 3200
A7N8X-Deluxe
1 Gig Corsair
Swiftech Liquid Cooled
9700 Pro


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Response Number 4
Name: Overclocking_Freak
Date: August 29, 2004 at 12:44:14 Pacific
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LoL Jam...!!!

Watercooling is not a waste of money if you do it right..

Ive dabbled in both and in IMO water cooling is better...
This does not mean i am ignoring the dangers and cost of watercooling and your right in one aspect... one drip and thats it lol ..!!! but if you know what you are doing then a good watercooling system is the way to go to get lower temps...

My system (waterchill antarctica) reduced my temps by 15c and how many HSF are there out there that will keep a CPU with 2.0 Vcore going through it under 45c under load (tested by prime95 for 4 hours)....?..


...............

Abit NF7s V2.0 Mobo
Radeon 9800xt 256mb,
xp2500 mobile @ 208x12.5,
Antec true 550w psu,
2X512 xms corsair Pc3500 in dual channel,
Twin 10k Raptors (raided)
waterchill cooled..


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Response Number 5
Name: indigian
Date: August 29, 2004 at 14:11:38 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

My idle can get under 30c but thats by an open window and at night.Nightime ambient is 10/12c ish.Load is 38c with ambient at 15/18c.

Winter is on the way which will give even lower temps and maybe a little extra headroom for oc'ing.


Tt Lanfire
nf7-s v2.0
XP-m 2500@200x11
SP 97
1GB pc3200
Jou Jye 550w psu
FX5600
WDCaviar 60gb
Seagate Barracuda 80gb

;~}


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Response Number 6
Name: xXx-HotShot-xXx
Date: August 29, 2004 at 14:30:17 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

A good heat and fan are a waste of money to Jam.

Mike


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Response Number 7
Name: xXx-HotShot-xXx
Date: August 29, 2004 at 14:33:25 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Meant heatsink.

Mike


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Response Number 8
Name: lazyman
Date: August 29, 2004 at 15:34:25 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

My XP2600+ at 200x12.5 takes 1.725 Volt; but it takes hell a lot more to go another 100 to 125 mhz. Prime95 for hours and at 1.725 volt my temp never exceeded 45 neither; with easy air cooling and sub-3,000 rpm 80mm fan.

I have two W/C systems also; may be 1 to 2C lower but not any quieter. If I have to get to 2V to get a few more mhz, I'd rather be a bit slower with no one will notice the difference.;)


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: August 29, 2004 at 16:22:02 Pacific
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"A good heat and fan are a waste of money to Jam"

xXx-HotShot-xXx & I don't see eye to eye on HSFs...or temps for that matter. He feels temps in the 40s are totally unacceptable. I believe in getting the best bang for my buck. I can't see spending $50+ for a copper heatpipe or over $200 for watercooling, when I can get nearly as good results for under $15.

Let me give a shameless plug to my HSF of choice, the Cooler Master aluminum w/copper base (model CP5-6J31C-01). Newegg has some reviews:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-103-407&depa=0


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Response Number 10
Name: indigian
Date: August 29, 2004 at 16:26:21 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Horses for courses

If you got the bucks to bang then carry on bangin.

Tt Lanfire
nf7-s v2.0
XP-m 2500@200x11
SP 97
1GB pc3200
Jou Jye 550w psu
FX5600
WDCaviar 60gb
Seagate Barracuda 80gb

;~}


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Response Number 11
Name: giggles
Date: August 29, 2004 at 16:44:40 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

hey, goodfella not too bad but
with absolutely no fans except vid card fan i get 50C idle cpu
with the fan on my stock amd hs/f turned on and my 4 case fans turned on last night i got 35C idle cpu
and when i turn my case fans all the way down so its *silent* i get about 40C idle

and thats when im ocing my 2500 to 3200 1.675vcore

i was getting 37C mid summer but my temps have dropped a little since fall started creeping up on us

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: August 29, 2004 at 20:05:54 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

"Horses for courses
If you got the bucks to bang then carry on bangin."

Never said I didn't have the bucks


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Response Number 13
Name: Goodfella
Date: August 30, 2004 at 04:33:08 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Well i dont care much for water cooling either as i dont like mixing water with electricity.And also if you got fan speed controllers then that takes care of the noise.But then you need a decent size case to fit many watercooling systems and a couple hundred bucks for the good ones too.Not to say there aint cheap ones but i find my setup is just right and im happy.


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Response Number 14
Name: indigian
Date: August 30, 2004 at 08:19:01 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Never meant to imply that you didn't jam.

If people have got the cash and want to spend it that's cool.


Tt Lanfire
nf7-s v2.0
XP-m 2500@200x11
SP 97
1GB pc3200
Jou Jye 550w psu
FX5600
WDCaviar 60gb
Seagate Barracuda 80gb

;~}


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Response Number 15
Name: Overclocking_Freak
Date: August 31, 2004 at 08:37:04 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Very nice temps Guys...

I Appreciate that air is "cheap" and you can get some nice temps but like i said in responce 4 ..

"how many HSF are there out there that will keep a CPU with 2.0 Vcore going through it under 45c under load (tested by prime95 for 4 hours)....?.. "

None....!!!!

Watercooling is expensive, but if you have the money and its fitted correctly a good watercooling system speaks for itself...!!


.........................


Abit NF7s V2.0 Mobo
Radeon 9800xt 256mb,
xp2500 mobile @208x12.5,
Antec true psu,
2X512 xms corsair Pc3500 in dual channel,
Twin 10k Raptors (raided)
waterchill cooled..


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