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I got my new xp 2000 and mobo about 2/3 weeks ago... only yesterday did i install the 'windoctor' CPU temp monitoring utility.
Im constantly paranoid about my CPU temp, since my last processor was fried (amd k6 2 450) when the fan konked out in the middle of a 1024x768 quake 3 session... for months after the event my k62 ran like a p1 90.
Anyway the idle temp on my new xp 2000 is just under 45C... im hoping it didnt reach anything above 60 during the period i didnt have windoctor installed, i remember my Comp freezing a few times during long renditions of GTA3. since purchased it seems to be running a 'tad' slower, maybe 10% -15% since it was pulled from it's packet, am i just insane? Is there a way to check if it's slightly damaged? Thanks a bunch, :D
- Nixxon
Hmmm, I downloaded Toast.exe... let it run for 35 secs, my CPU temp didnt change in windoctor. Didnt really inform me if the damage had already been done however.
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You would probably have to get temps around 75-80c (maybe 70c but i doubt it) to get damage..i wouldn't worry. if you want to get the temps down just get a new hsf, you could probably get your temps down 15c with a good one.
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Sorry just realized i was supposed to run toast for around 20min (not 20 sec).
My CPU temp went from 44.5 to 50.0 in 4min... is this bad? Would high end games burdon the CPU even more so than Toast? if so im screwed, since i play for 1hour+ periods.
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Oh yeah GTA3 is really sensitive to fragmented hard drives if your hard drive is fragmented or is running slow cause of other applications it will cause skipping or freezing for a couple of seconds. if you formatted and reinstalled everything i wouldn't be suprised if it went away. if you try that and it does it would be a good idea to get more ram.
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I don't really expect GTA3 to run fast, since it's probably the most porly ported PS2 to PC game in the history of the industry. I'm just hoping it hasnt raped my CPU whilst playing it (at 25-35fps). Aside from my lack of ram, I'm also using a TNT2 m64. I've just orderd a Geforce FX 5200 hoping it'll attract some abuse away from the CPU.
Still I come to the question, can i verify if my CPU has ALREADY been damaged? If I could somehow compare it to another XP 2000, cant really download 3D mark 03 (170meg on unressumable dial up... ouch! :P). I've benchmarked it on sisandra, seems to be the same readings as the first day i got it (though only a 'synthetic' benchmark so i dont know if it counts).
Any ideas? cheers
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It might get too high, i don't know it depends on how well you hsf can cool and the ambient air temperature. i would make sure it doesn't ever get over 65c.
Toast puts your cpu to the max, i don't know exactly how but it will get your temps higher than if you played a game. another thing i found to work good for getting your temps up is this folding at home thing. it's like seti but stresses your cpu pretty good, just turn the cpu usage to 100% in the options menu.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/Folding@Home3.EXE
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There's no program or anything that can tell you if it's been damaged. but a good way i have is when i first get it i benchmark it with a good stable benchmark and i just keep checking it now and then to see how the performance is doing if it goes down i usually do all i can do to fix it(usally having to format).
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Even if it's synthetic i think if anything in your pc would all of a sudden get lower scores it would mean it needs maintenance or is damaged in some way. i usually use pcmark2002, i find it's pretty stable on my system i almost always get the exact same hd score. for the video card i NEVER use 3dmark it unstable it gives you very differnet scores sometimes. codecreatures benchmark pro is VERY stable.
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If the processor was damaged, the motherboard probably will fail to POST with
no bleeps, just black screen.
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That's right. I usually know my cpu is damaged by very weird problems. If your cpu was damaged, you wouldn't lose 15% performance, you'd probably have a 15% chance of booting to windows without freezing though. Your comp probably slowed down with use (i.e. program installs and little buggers that run in the bg). All comps slow down with usage unless you really keep it maintained. It'd be quite obvious if your cpu was damaged.
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Thanks :)
feel much better now.
when my last CPU was damaged i lost about 50%+ performance. Although my HDD was already fully loaded when i first installed the new mobo and CPU im guessing perhaps my tnt2 is getting a bit old... running stuff it never would/should/could.
Thanks again :)
- Nixxon
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Yeah you don't lose 15% performance when your cpu gets damaged you lose 50% with a 15% chance of not booting lol..listen to frogxx he knows...
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Froggx states that I'd have a 15% chance of booting, not a 15% of 'not' booting. I could always boot when my k62 was damaged, it just run like utter crap, even with several formats, trying different OS's and adding ram.
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Yeah yeah i know, and if you fry your cpu i doubt new ram or anything would work. and all of the times that i've heard of people frying their cpu, after it happens they lose performance if it still works, just like nixxon experienced.
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