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Name: rocketman87
Date: October 31, 2005 at 02:57:14 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Home Edition S
CPU/Ram: Intel 2.4 celeron/512mb
Comment:

Hi all this is my first post !

Well i bought my current pc 10 months ago when i was really short on cash. So i bought a Intel 2.4 celeron (Horrible choice really) ASUS P4S533 motherboard 512mb RAM DDR, 80 gb segate baracuda.

So now when i had some extra i bought a 256 mb nvidia geforce fx 5200 3d card but still i did not get the gaming expreience that i wanted so i decided to do some shopping well i went and got some prices and this is what i can afford u tel me which is better.


Update the current processor to 2.6ghz with HT (Cheap but i want more performance )

Or

Buy a new processor and motehrboard i was looking at AMD Athlon64 3200+ and a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3 motherboard ( cant go for nForce4 coz i dont wanna buy a new 3d card)

Well i basically play quake3 online and will play latestgames on this PC is this configuration good enough ?? or do i need more ??

and can my 512MB ram be used on my athlon or will i have to buy new ram and is 512 ram enough ?


PS: No intel 3.0 pls coz same problem pci express card it supports


**THX IN ADVANCE GUYZ**

i was mad that i bought an intel 2.4 celeron for gaming



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Response Number 1
Name: rocketman87
Date: October 31, 2005 at 03:08:37 Pacific
Reply:

srry to double post but the processor that i am chosing is 939 pin Athlon64 3200+


i was mad that i bought an intel 2.4 celeron for gaming


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Response Number 2
Name: GameGeek
Date: October 31, 2005 at 04:36:06 Pacific
Reply:

well, a athlon is way better than a pentium for gaming. go with you second setup and sell you current card and just get a regular 6600 g-force card for under 150.00. Try to go with N-force 4 cause the support sli and it is better than n-force 3. that 2.6Ghz pentium 4 with hyper-threading dosen't stand up to the mighty Athlon 3200+ 2.0Ghz.


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: October 31, 2005 at 05:06:30 Pacific
Reply:

Simply put...the Celeron is not a gaming CPU, you need more RAM, & your video card sucks

ASUS A7N8X-X
Athlon XP 1800+
8.5 x 200MHz
1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
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Response Number 4
Name: rocketman87
Date: October 31, 2005 at 08:53:31 Pacific
Reply:

Which 3d card should i opt for ?? An ati radeon 9800 pro and is my card really that bad :S its a XFX Geforce FX 5200 (256mb DDR)TV DVI??

i was mad that i bought an intel 2.4 celeron for gaming


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Response Number 5
Name: Zenith
Date: October 31, 2005 at 10:01:47 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, your card is not up to par with games that are out today.

X800 better than 9800, geforce 6800 better than both.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-07.html


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Response Number 6
Name: Avun
Date: October 31, 2005 at 14:08:19 Pacific
Reply:

Get a board that supports the AMD 64 thats socket 939 and make sure it has PCI E on it, if you go with AGP you will regret it in a year or so.


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Response Number 7
Name: rocketman87
Date: November 1, 2005 at 14:02:51 Pacific
Reply:

Okay guyz i decided on this

AMD Athlon64 3200+ Socket939
MSI Neo2 Nforce4 Socket939
XFX Nvidia GeForce 6600 256MB DDR Pci E

Is this OKAY ?


i was mad that i bought an intel 2.4 celeron for gaming


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Response Number 8
Name: YOYO
Date: November 1, 2005 at 14:33:33 Pacific
Reply:

Sounds ok to me.

How much is it all going to cost? Just curious. And where are you going to get it at also.

TIA!

YO


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Response Number 9
Name: Free Weasel
Date: November 3, 2005 at 02:58:37 Pacific
Reply:

If you mean the MSI K8N Neo2 board that it
has no NForce4 but the NForce3 chipset and
still works with AGP.
I would suggest a socket 939 board with
NForce4 and PCI Express (pcie) support
combined with a pcie graphic card. That way
you may upgrade later to a newer graphic
card.

Depending on you budget I'd suggest a
6600GT or even 6800GT. The 6600Gt works
with a GPU clock of 500MHz compared to
300MHz of the 6600 which is quite a bit
faster. Compared to that the 6800GT has a
lower GPU clock but a more complex GPU
which makes it a lot faster than the
6600GT. With 3DMark 03 i measured nearly
double the points than with the 6600GT.

FX5200:
This is a nice card for office but even for
normal gaming it's just not suitable. Even
any old TI4200 card is much faster than the
FX5200. The TI4200 may not support DirectX9
but the FX5200 may know the commands but is
just too slow to really use those commands.
And sorry but even building this card with
256MB Ram makes absolutely no sense to me.
You need that ram only for gaming and there
it's too slow so what do they want with
256MB on it (calculating high detail
textures for modern games just will not
work unless you like to deal with 1 fps
frames!) ????


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Response Number 10
Name: Free Weasel
Date: November 3, 2005 at 03:11:08 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry I forgot:

With that Athlon64 3200+ your system should
be fast enough for the games but the real
speed and quality of actual games depends
to about 95% on the graphic card you build
in the system. That card has to do all the
important work and as long as the cpu is
able to supply the basic data fast enough a
good graphic card will do the rest.

Example:
Last year I bought a FX5900XT to replace
the old Geforce2 GTS on may old Athlon
Thinderbird 1,2@1,33GHz 512MB SD Ram
system. after that all those game I barely
made the minimal cpu requirements of around
1GHz CPU played smoothly at highest or at
least very high graphic setting with AA
2x/4x and AS 4x/8x settings.
I did this because I planned to upgrade the
rest at the start of this year and wanted
to use the card on the system. Luckily I
was able to sell that new one just after
building it and to get a Athlon64 3000+
Winchester PCIe system together with a
6600GT instead!

BTW: I have the Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe board
and I'm very happy with that. I
successfully OCed the 3000+ from 1800MHz up
to 2700MHz but with 3DMark 05 this 50% OC
just got me 3% more points so I clocked it
back to normal until I really need a faster
CPU!
Just to make it clear, there's no warranty
you can OC that high with every Athlon64
3000+. The one I sold before with the MSI
K8N Neo2 Platinum and my mentioned FX5900XT
just ended up at maximal 2520MHz and became
too unstable above!


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