I have my 1800+XP THOROUGHBRED cpu overclocked to 1.8 gigs using a volcano 7 fan i get temps of 30 degrees celcious and 30 degrees system on full load even while playing CnC generals which takes a ton on your computer,
anyways i use no thermal compounds at all except for the HSF and the pad that came with it thats all i use and i have wonderful temps with it being overclocked

IN MY OPINION THERMAL COMPOUNDS ARE VERY HIGHLY OVER RATED AND A WASTE OF MONEY IF YOU ASK ME

UNLESS YOUR EXPERIANCING EXTREMELY HIGH TEMPS AND HAVE TRIED A GOOD HSF AND STILL IT IS TOO HIGH THEN MAYBE GET SOME THERMAL COMPOUND OTHERWISE ITS NOT NEEDED

I will ask you something. How accurate are your temps?? What are you using to monitor them?? Using just the motherboard probe to measure cpu temp is not very accurate. To get an accurate reading, you need to measure the temp of the "die" itself. Temp on die vs. under chip can vary up to 30 C. Just thought you'd like to know.

BTW, thermal compound is cheaper than a thermal pad. The cheap stuff at radio shack goes for $2.00, a thermal pad is definetly more expensive. Thermal compound will also out preform any thermal pad. Are you getting ripped off??

i use the bios temps???

dude there's and option in bios that shows u your temps and those r my temps i just use the pad that came with the HSF

no need to use thermal compound

*sigh*

You can't play cnc while looking at your bios screen.

No one on the planet gets 30C at full load on cnc with a just a volcano 7 on a 20% oc'd athlon. No one. Except maybe a guy in an alley in Finland.

You are right about the overating of thermal compound. Many people who have replaced the pad with compound saw their temps go up. The pad is good.

i have specific software that came with my motherboard and the readings r both the same in bios and in the software so i check my temp when playing games and the temp does not go up

but do realise i have 2 case fans and my side panel is off

YEAH RIGHT???? I believe an overclocked 1800+ AMD/Athlon runs at 30C system and die Temp on full (LOAD) as much as I Believe SADDAM HUSSIEN and the FRENCH LOVE ALL OF US AMERICANS!! Where is your computer set up in a walk in refrig ??? I have the same cpu and a better box set up with 5 fans and get a constant temp of 37C and 24 system,You mean to tell me your cpu and system temps are exactly the same??? My cpu is not overclocked either.I would bet the house that that's not a true reading??

i'v got an 1800 aswell, and my load temp is 52C running at 1800xp specs, 54C running at 1900xp specs. Just clock your FSB in BIOS for better ram speed aswell.

I got a -4C decrease over 3 days after I applied my AC3 paste, I'm not sure as to the temp I would have had with this heatsink, but as soon as it booted up and I'd played Generals, it was at 58C, now 54C load. Hoping it might even go down more.

50C when the window is open lol, warm room I guess.

LOOK IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME LOOK AT THE PICTURE YOURSELF

ftp://lmadson:Z9xDt5@tsacp.com/httpdocs/united-mafia/MY%20TEMPS.JPG

I don't know much about these things. Is it bad to have high temp. I have a AMD Duron 1.2 Ghz, and the temp is about 60C, and when I play a game (GTA3, or something) it goes up to 65C. Is there anything I can do about it?

It seems odd that your system temp & CPU temp are the same...& a 30C (86F) system temp seems kinda high especially since you're running with the side panel off. I would suspect inaccurate temp readings, regardles of what your BIOS & software tells you.

As for pad vs paste...if you buy a retail CPU with HSF that has a pad on it, use it as-is. If you remove the pad & replace it with paste, you void the warranty. Using the paste completely defeats the purpose of buying retail. If you buy an OEM CPU & an "aftermarket" HSF, paste would be the better choice. The cheap Radio Shack stuff works almost as well as Arctic Silver 3...personally I see no need for spending the extra $$ for AS-3. And I'm highly suspect of the posts stating that "AS-3 lowered my CPU temps by 10C". If you read the info at the Arctic Silver website, you'll see that they claim a drop of between 2-5C over a break-in period of as long as 200 hours!

I clipped the following from their site:

"Due to the unique shape and sizes of the silver particles in Arctic Silver 3, it will take a minimum of 72 hours, and as many as 200 hours to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink.) The CPU's temperature will drop as much as 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period."

Your overclocking and running a core voltage of 1.63??? Seems a little low. You said you have a Volacano 7 right?? Well...how fast is it spinning at full load? To get the temps your seeing, it better be blowing hard--4800 rpm's to be exact. If its not, than i highly doubt your temps are accurate. No air cooling in the world will give you a temp of 30C at full load. Let alone a Volcano 7.

How warm is the air coming out of your PSU? Is the heatsink hot to the touch? At 30 C, i hope the heatsink burns your hands (good contact between core and heatsink will do this if your temp is 30 C). Again i must state the actual temp of your cpu is the die temp, not the temp reading below your chip.

I too can't beleive these temps - they are WAY too low.

The fan is spinning at 3400 RPM ish - and it's at 30C?!?!?!?! HOW! There is no way this heatsink can work either - because there is no temperature gradient with the air in the case - and so no heat is radiated away. To get good cooling, you want a higher gradient - that's what case fans are for.

Erm, yeh, your temps are reading wrong!!!

What he is doing is not that hard to do if you run cpuidle or other cpu-stopper as a hidden task. Also note there is no cnc running.

CPUidle doesn't do anything when your cpu is under full load i.e. %100 usage. CpuIdle only works when its idleing.

Was there evidence in the desktop screenshot that the cpu wasn't idling? I missed it if so. I thought the evidence pointed to an idle machine, if anything.

Dude your a Retard I'm sorry.....How can the System Temp be higher then the CPU temp?

Yeah, I have to agree with Mike on that one he hit it right on. no way the sys temp is higher than the cpu. Your readings are messed.

Note that I applied a very thin layer of cheap paste to this CPU but here goes...

when I first built this XP2100+ Tbred B system under full load it was 30ºC CPU and 28ºC motherboard. This is using a Volcano 7+ at it's lowest speed. One month on it's at 35ºC full load and 30ºC mobo. My heatsink isn't hot at all to touch and the air coming out my PSU (360W Cheiftec) is cool. Idle this rig has identical CPU and system temperatures (29 & 29)

Hey Gun.......how come you can afford new hardware when you can't afford to buy a legit copy of XP Pro??????? That XP Pro Corporate sure does get around the world.

hey
here's my secret

i have PC Alert 4 that came with my MSI motherboard and the program provides Cooler XP which nocks down the cpu temp like 15 degres along with the HSF thats why the rpms arn't very high

and as for the xp pro.. why pay for xp pro when i can get it free???
muahahahaha

Hey ben your CPU temp was still higher than your mobo temp, gun's wasn't.

Sorry dude but those reading are wrong and they are 100% wrong. First your system temperature has to be lower than your CPU temperature or else it doesn't make sense. Second, volcano 7 you didn't mention 7+ and even if it is, is not that great.

But there is a believable temperature ;) I use an Alpha Pal80045-t heatsink with a Enermax Fab8-b fan running at 1400 RPM. With 6-7 case fan I get.

CPU = 34 36(load)
Case = 24

With 3 case fan each temp increase by 5-6 respectively, now its much quieter so I'd rather have a higher temp than living with a vaccum.

Maybe you should upgrade your BIOS then check the temerature. My Asus A7n8x reads my CPu temp at

25 degrees even after 10 minutes into the BIOS. ?? After I flashed the BIOS it goes up to 33-34 =D

By the way looking at your system temperature I estimate that your actual CPU temperature is at about 40-42.

If Gun's system temp is 30 and the CPU is also 30 means his CPU is dead.

A dead man's body temp is the same as the ambient temp. So is a dead light bulb.

to ben rogers:

how did you know it was xp pro corporate?

i just updated my bios 3 days ago and my temps are not wrong because if they were my cpu would have fried b4 i took my panel off.

but as for the temps... they r 1 degree apart its not that big of a deal.......

*sigh*

rob - yep I know, I was just posting to show how good the Volcano 7+ heatsink is. Still 35•C full load for an XP2100+ isn't exactly bad.

nipponbiki - the product ID stood out like a sore thumb to me.

Does no-one get it?

HE'S USING COOLING SOFTWARE!

He said so!

That would explain the same temperature - as when the CPU is idle, it turns it off totally - meaning system temp and main temp become about the same - sometimes CPU can go even lower due to heatsink.

If he tests the CPU temp WHILST A GAME IS RUNNING, or a DVD or something, it will rocket up there.

Wow....Gun did you know that you were going to get this much publicity???

lol....
well i figured i might spice up the atmosphere a lil
i figured yall would be suprised to see such low temps for a HSF and it being overclocked kinda kool i think

but its true the cooling software takes the temps down really low which is good because if i didn't use cooling software the temps would be around 41-45 degrees celsios which is too hot for my taste

but anyway
i have a good system so i'm happy
but i need better ram and a new PSU
i heard the antec's r good i want an antec 550
:)

hey, wait I know this guy, he lives in an igloo