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socket a sempron
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Name: paulyg
Date: January 11, 2006 at 23:37:29 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron OS: xp proCPU/Ram: sempron 3300+socket A/1gi |
Comment: I recently purchased a sempron 3300+ socket A part number sda3300dkv4e the part number shows it having a 400fsb with 512cache.i was told 333fsb and 256cache im very confused what this is.any ideas thanks
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Response Number 1
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Name: jam
Date: January 12, 2006 at 05:49:18 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I've never heard of such a CPU, but if you use AMD's OPN info for SDA3300DKV4E, this is what you get: SDA = AMD Semprom
3300 = model number
D = OPGA (package type)
K = 1.65v (CPU voltage)
V = 85C (max die temp)
4 = 512k (L2 cache)
E = 400MHZ (FSB) This space for rent
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Response Number 2
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Name: paulyg
Date: January 12, 2006 at 07:46:58 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)isellsurplus.com still shows a picture of it but is no longer avail.i just purchased an msi km4m-v motherboard to use with it but if it is truely a 400fsb 512k the km4m wont support it max fsb is 333 i am at a loss
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Response Number 3
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Name: jam
Date: January 12, 2006 at 08:28:41 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)My guess is this is one of those "OEM only" CPUs that AMD doesn't officially acknowledge...like the Athlon XP 2900+ Barton that was produced exclusively for HP. And now that you mentioned where you bought it, it seems even more likely. Here's what was written about the 2900+ in another forum: "AMD will NOT provide any warranty or support for these CPUs to end users because their agreement is solely with the OEM who contracted for their manufacture. These CPUs will not even appear in the tech support database if and when you call AMD for help." http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/37773/ This space for rent
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Response Number 4
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Name: paulyg
Date: January 12, 2006 at 11:15:32 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)i will try to call amd again, tryed once had me on on hold forever could not get through thanks for your help jam will let you know
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Response Number 5
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Name: paulyg
Date: January 12, 2006 at 11:58:02 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)talked to amd they confirmed that i have a 400fsb with 512k cache, according to them this thing is rare and was used in asia why the vendor i purchased it from is passing it off as 333fsb and 256k has me wondering, it is refurbished according to them,what could they have changed to make it under there specs, wouldnt they have had to change the part# maybe the die is different it looks brand new though
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Response Number 6
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Name: jerry6
Date: January 12, 2006 at 17:42:55 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)this board is cheap socket a and 400 fsb
http://www.epox.nl/products/view.php?product_id=279
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Response Number 7
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Name: bajaranger
Date: January 14, 2006 at 19:43:26 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Sorry for asking a question in response area but I can't figure out where to post. I need to know whether a sempron is better than a barton core at roughly the same frequency. How important is the 4oo fsb?
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Response Number 8
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Name: jolo4315
Date: January 27, 2006 at 12:15:49 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I just bought a socket A sempron 3300+ off tigerdirect with a biostar m7ncg 400 mobo in a bundle they advertize 256kb cache and do not advertize fsb and when you click the link for more info on the processor you get directed to tiger directs home page, somethings fishy, well hopefully it is compatible with the board, I thought I was mabe getting a socket 754 by mistake or misprint, well I might be, I havent recieved it yet should be here in a few days. well see.
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Response Number 9
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Name: jolo4315
Date: January 27, 2006 at 12:21:18 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)also the biostar website shows a compatible socket A sempron 3300+ with a fsb(333) for the biostar m7ncg 400 so I am confused as well, I kinda cant wait until it gets here to see what this baby can do the bundle was cheap 79.99 after rebate
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Response Number 10
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Name: paulyg
Date: January 28, 2006 at 19:56:55 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I saw that package deal at tiger direct.The cpu will run at 400fsb at 2.2gigs and is 512cache.I dont know why all of these places are advertising it at 333fsb when its not.almost done with my build will let you know
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Response Number 11
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Name: roxo
Date: January 29, 2006 at 06:37:48 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Also have that package from tiger direct...my motherboard was bad so i'm waiting for replacement. I couldn't find anything on the sda3300dkv4e either, so i'll be watching this thread to see what turns up. :)
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Response Number 12
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Name: jolo4315
Date: January 29, 2006 at 07:58:32 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)what was wrong with your board? I hope I don't have any problems. when you read reviews on tiger direct and new egg there are always a lot of people claiming they got dead or bad boards, I attribute that to the fact that people who have had bad experiences are more likely to take the time to tell somebody about it, or are there that many bad boards being shipped to people? I have only ever bought 2 boards, both in barebones deals, this is my first mobo processor bundle, I sure hope everything works and if it dose not, I wonder how much of a pain it will be to return/replace it. there is something on the tiger direct site that says they will not accept returns on processors that do not have a matching cpu fan on the same order, I didnt buy a fan becuase I have 2 extra fans that should be more than capable of keeping this baby cool. well see, seems like I made a risky purchase, at least with the sempron that does not exsist.
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Response Number 13
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Name: jolo4315
Date: January 29, 2006 at 08:05:58 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)also tiger direct offers 2 rebates with the bundle a 50$ rebate on the cpu witch the link to print out the form works and 1 rebate of 20$ for the mobo which the link to print out the rebate form is dead and has been since I bought it, when you go to onrebate to search for the rebate they dont even list a rebate for any biostar mobo. I have never had a problem with tiger direct in my limited experience but this deal has seemed kinda shady from the get go. they offer 70$ worth of rebates but in reality I think I will be lucky to get the 50$ rebate on the cpu.
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Response Number 14
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Name: roxo
Date: January 29, 2006 at 14:59:39 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)My bad motherboard was the biostar m7ncg 400...it wouldn't post. 2 of my friend bought the same board and they were good. It was kind of a pain getting the replacement... had to talk to biostar tech dept[went thru their test]got a claim number from them> called tiger>got rma number>they offered to send replacement 1day air and give me a $5 credit on shipping the defective board back [which was nice]...however, i checked my invoice later and noticed the board is on back order now. [#@!%$^$#!%~!]
Odd about the processor..can't find anything on that sda3300dkv4e
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Response Number 16
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Name: bawolvesfan
Date: January 30, 2006 at 19:18:27 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)n/e one get and try their board and cpu? i just ordered one and i seriously hope the board allows it to run at its full potential, maybe even overclocked. thx.
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Response Number 17
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Name: flhusa1
Date: January 31, 2006 at 20:40:50 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)i got the tiger bundle too. mb went bad when i rebooted trying to get cpu to read correct. called biostar got new one from tiger with rma. spent two days before i found this site getting it to recognize 3300+ sempron. now it works. set fsb in bios to 200 and it will work if your mb dont go bad. i also updated the bios.
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Response Number 19
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Name: roxo
Date: February 1, 2006 at 16:58:32 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)flhusa1
..how did u get it to work? I recieved my 2nd motherboard and still can't get the 3300 to post. I dropped in my old 1800 proc and it worked fine....so the motherboard is ok.
the bios is: NCG1221bf 400
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Response Number 21
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Name: flhusa1
Date: February 1, 2006 at 19:33:23 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)roxo,
did you set the fsb frequency to 200?
cpu ratio-x12
system performance-optimal
cpu voltage-default
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Response Number 23
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Name: roxo
Date: February 2, 2006 at 05:00:37 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)did you set the fsb frequency to 200?
cpu ratio-x12
system performance-optimal
cpu voltage-default No....you have to be able to acess the bios[ there's no settings on your board right?]. It won't do anything when powered up [except run the cpu fan].
totally blank screen, no post beep.
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Response Number 24
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 2, 2006 at 06:31:24 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I recieved mine yesterday and it runs great at 200 fsb cpuz shows mine sempron 3300+ core= barton core speed 2191.2 multiplier x11 fsb 199.2 bus speed 398.4, and L2 512. memory timings are frequency= 166 fsbdram 6:5 cas latency 2.5 ras to cas delay= 4 ras precharge= 4 and cycle time = 7 these were the defualt settings for optimalI tried to change the speed by choosing expert in bios and bumping up speed to 220 but that changed other values like timing and I do not know enough to know what timings to try yet so the board would not post so I reset the cmos on the board following the manuals instructions and went back into bios the clock speed was set back to 100 fsb so I changed back to 2oo fsb with the optimal setting and now it is running at the numbers specified above. I updated the bios before I tried any oc'ing. it runs good at 200 but I would like to learn more about how to get a little more out of her, the board I replaced, was a soyo k7vme with a sempron 2500 @ 333 bus speed, 1.75Ghz I was able to get to show sempron 2800 1.95ghz just buy bumping up bus speed like from 166 to 186 and no other adjustments, so I hope to get a little more out of the 3300 in time.
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Response Number 25
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 2, 2006 at 06:33:18 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I guess I should re-state I was talking about the biostar m7ncg 400 mobo and sempron3300+ socket A bundle from tiger direct
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Response Number 26
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 2, 2006 at 07:38:18 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)mine runs at 27c and up tp 32c with load which is great considering my sempron 2500 oc to 1.95 runs at like 44c-45c I use a thermaltake tr2 m2 and a little silver thermal grease. I expect that temp to go up if I overclock. but my sempron 2500 is tough as hell I acually ran my soyo k7vme and sempron2500 with the heat sink on backwards on the slowest cpu speed 100fsb with temps around 65c for like a year becuase I didnt know, then when I finally set the jumper on the k7vme to 166 fsb my temps went up tp 85c-90c a bunch of times and shut itself down, until I figured out the heatsink was on backwards and wasnt flush with my cpu, from that point on it was 44c-45c with sempron 2500 overclocked to 186 fsb= x10.5= 1.95ghz. so to see this sempron 3300 run at 27c idle in the same case and everything I am very happy.
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Response Number 27
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 2, 2006 at 07:59:29 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)try clearing the cmos jumper there is a jcmos jumper on the lower right corner under the battery it should be on pins 1&2, remove ac power line close pins 2&3 by pulling off the little plastic clip and pushing it on pins 2&3 wait 15 seconds pull it off pins 2&3 and push it back on pins 1&2 plug in ac power and power up, that might get you to where you can access the bios by pressing delete, I think that you will find your speed will be set at 100 (safe) and you should be able to change to 200. when I tried to overclock mine it woud not post so cleared the cmos by following the manuals instructions as I have written here and it worked. I have had it not post a few times when I changed setting in bios and I clear the cmos and power up and it has worked every time. hope this helps.
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Response Number 28
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 2, 2006 at 08:36:10 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Ive been woking it with a load running virus scans and spybot and ad aware and stuff and my temps have reached 42c and I do remember now temps reaching mabe 40c or so yesterday when I was reformatting my hd and installing windows and putting programs back on my computer. but still idle at about 27c -32c under normal use on average.
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Response Number 29
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Name: flhusa1
Date: February 2, 2006 at 15:19:52 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)roxo
thats what mine did when i first got it. it booted bunch of times then i set defaults and it never showed anything on the didplay. i called biostar and the gave me a rma and i got a new mb and its been fine.
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Response Number 30
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Name: roxo
Date: February 4, 2006 at 12:48:27 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)anyone running the tiger bundle with 2 harddrives?
[m7ncg 400 mobo, sempron3300, 400w case]
a friend has the same config. but when he plugs in the pwr connector on the second drive it shuts the system down [of course it won't boot with either]
just wondering if there is a pwr. supply issue?
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Response Number 31
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Name: jolo4315
Date: February 6, 2006 at 04:32:22 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)yes I have a w d 120 gig and a seagate 300 gig both running with windows xp pro I bought a 400 watt power supply but decided to use the 350 watt that was in my case originally and everything is good. I will say I had trouble getting into safe mode to remove a few trojans with 2 hds I had to unplug one of the hds, the one without the operating system on it to get into safe mode but that is the only conflict I have had with running to hard drives
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Response Number 32
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 12, 2006 at 10:05:34 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I an anxiously awaiting the package from TigerDirect also. Could someone please confirm whether the motherboard bundle comes with a heatsink/fan? Also, I was so excited when I saw the Sempron 3300 for such a great deal that I forgot to read the specs closely on the motherboard. The biostar is a Socket A--How is it inferior to a Socket 754? Please respond, as this is my first pc build and I am freaking out here!!!!
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Response Number 33
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Name: Sus Ano
Date: February 13, 2006 at 20:13:10 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Q for anyone who has this board & CPU running. On the BioStar website and in the only review I found on the board they indicate that dual channel mode only works at 333 Mhz but that the board will recognize one stick of 400MHz SDRAM. Does anyone know if this changed with the bios update that lets the MB work with the Sempron or are folks just running one stick of 400mHz SDRAM? Oh and having bought a similar package from tigerdirect (an Athlon Xp 2900) in the past I can confidently say to anyone who bought this with a case and PSU as well -- RUN don't walk to get a new case and power supply. Once I did that things worked great.
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Response Number 34
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Name: Ron12345678
Date: February 16, 2006 at 10:30:50 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Can anyone tell me what settings I would use to get this set up (the tiger deal ) to run faster than 2191 ? isn't it supposed to run up to 3300 like the CPU is supposed to ?
The MB manual from Biostar is WORTHLESS !
Ron
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Response Number 35
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Name: roxo
Date: February 18, 2006 at 09:02:19 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Sus Ano
I have the same setup, i'm running 2 512k sticks 3200sdram. When i check my system with cpuid it shows "dual channel" > 1024MBytes>199.2FSB >398.4 bus speed bios date 12/21/2005 ------------------- Ron12345678 Can anyone tell me what settings I would use to get this set up (the tiger deal ) to run faster than 2191 ? That's the correct speed [mhz] 2191=2.2mhz
isn't it supposed to run up to 3300 like the CPU is supposed to ? No....just a way to identify cpu [3300 don't equal 3.3mhz]
The MB manual from Biostar is WORTHLESS ...you got that right, if i was a 1st time builder>> i'd have some problems
Try out [free] cpuid....gives u alittle more info about ur machine pat
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Response Number 36
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 18, 2006 at 19:59:58 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Are your 2 sticks of 512 3200 ram identical. Or are they different brands? There seems to be a discrepency as to whether you need identical sticks of ram or not to utilize dual channell.
How are the online graphics? Know anything about tv-out?
Did you format/install windows, or did you "repair" windows after installing board?
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Response Number 37
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Name: bigjdavis73
Date: February 20, 2006 at 14:21:58 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I just received the same package. This is the 3rd computer I've built. The manual isn't helpful at all and the directions I downloaded from tiger tell me plug in the power supply for the processor. I can't find anywhere to do this. I have installed the processor and fan and only get the processor fan to run. No beep. Does this mean my motherboard is bad?
Thanks,
Jon
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Response Number 38
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Name: roxo
Date: February 20, 2006 at 17:43:09 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)did u plug the mini speaker onto the motherboard? mine was very "weak" sounding...hardly can hear it when it boots. Are u getting any video on ur monitor? 1st..if no audio or video, try reseting cmos jumper.
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Response Number 39
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Name: ezdealz
Date: February 22, 2006 at 19:30:09 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Ok,
I just built the Tiger Direct package. 3300+ Sempron is 200FSB X 11. I'm an experienced builder and I had absolutly no problems with assembly and it runs fine. I've done a lot of business with Tiger and have had no problems with thier cases/power supplies as the other person here claimed. I one have one memory stick installed so I can't comment on the dual channel functionality, but this is a smoking deal for the price!
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Response Number 40
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 23, 2006 at 07:31:30 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)It took 10 days to arrive, but the wait was worth it. My first ever install went so easy, that the computer was fired up in 20 mins. Straight to 400mhz FSB. Recognized 2 sticks of 512 ram. Awesome sound, graphics and very fast Lan. Drivers were new, bios the latest. ALl I had to do was drop in the board. Fantastic setup, at an unbelievable price. Only hiccup is that my cd rom won't play Music, it will play games no problem. Windows spits out something about an internal error, it even happens when I open up Windows Media Player. My guess is a software thing, but it could have something to do with the CDIN header on the board being a little different than my old boards/cable. Still a 4 pin connection on the board, but the plugs look a little different, eventhough I fit it in. Anyway, a little help from experienced builders would be nice.
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Response Number 41
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 24, 2006 at 08:46:26 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)It was only a direct X issue. This thing flies!!!! Anyone now what adjustments you have to make in the bios to increase the integrated graphics memory to somwthing over 64MB? There are a few options in there, but I don't want to screw anything up without knowing for sure first.
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Response Number 42
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Name: NSX
Date: February 24, 2006 at 17:27:23 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I bought the same kit from tigerdirect.
sempron 3300+, Biostar M7NCG-400, 400W case, noisy cooling fan. I couldnt make it work with 200MHZ FSB to have it set to 3300+. Either crash or unstable. The only way for it to work in stable mode is to set 166MHZ which yields to 1.8Ghz. I have tried the following and no luck:
- FBS=200MHZ, DDR400, Blank screen or stuck
- FBS=200MHZ, DDR333, works but will hang or reboot machine intermittently
- FBS=166MHZ, DDR333, very stable but at 1.8Ghz. I have even reflashed the Bios with the latest one from www.biostar-usa.com and still no luck. It actually had the same bios but just wanted to make the one that came with the board was not bad or missing something. The memory using now is a 512MB PC3200 Buffalo CAS 2.5 Tomorrow will try with a 512MB PC3200 Kingston CAS3 and see if that will make a difference. If anyone had same issue as I am.. please advice.
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Response Number 43
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 24, 2006 at 19:31:09 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I have read, and tried, that you require 2 sticks of ram. 1 will not work properly. Works fine for me with 2 sticks, and I don't have a clue what i am doing!!! But i do have it set to 200mhz FSB.I am a little apprehensive about upping the integrated graphics to 128mb. but will try soon.
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Response Number 44
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Name: NSX
Date: February 25, 2006 at 13:44:59 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I have tried with Kingston PC3200: FSB=200MHZ, DDR400 (wont boot at all)
FSB=200MHZ, DDR333 (Will boot but will restart intermittently shortly after a while) I am using FX5200 rather the onboard Video.. Will try later taking out the AGP card and see if more stable or not. When u said you have 2 pieces of RAM, which slot did you put it to? A1 and B1? or B1 and B2? please confirm. When u set the FSB=200MHZ, do u read the memory as DDR333 or DDR400 during bootup? No one can confirm if the sempron 3300+ requires DDR333 or DDR400 :( Thanks.
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Response Number 45
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Name: tonydif
Date: February 25, 2006 at 17:05:01 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)Place the sticks in A1 And B1/B2. Should read dual chanel enabled in bootup screen, If you use online graphics the memory shows up at ddr 333, so I have experienced and read. My memory are pc 3200's. Don't adjust bios settings for memory to start, let the board load the optimal. If it still doesn't work, remember that this board is ver finnicky with memory, so you just might have to play around with different ones. Keep all bios settings at default/optimal to start. Do not tinker with anything to see if everything works. Myself, as well as other have had this thing working properly right out of the box. Later add video/sound cards. and change bios settings.
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Response Number 46
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Name: NSX
Date: February 25, 2006 at 20:07:50 Pacific
Subject: socket a sempron |
Reply: (edit)I have removed the FX5200 same better but crash somewhere. The onboard nforce2 MX video sux..cant deal some of the kid's game. So tomorrow will have to plug the FX5200 card back to it. I will use the PC2700 or DDR333 and set the FSB=166MHZ.. so the total output will be 1.8Ghz rather 2.1Ghz... I give up.. this is a waste of time with this board.. still waiting Biostar to get back to me about this issue. Will see later on. Oh by the way, this board not worth to have 2 sticks of RAM.. 1-512MB is good enough for a little kid PC. Thanks.
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