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Socket 754/939 limit?!
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Original Message
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Name: .neo
Date: August 26, 2005 at 04:41:10 Pacific
Subject: Socket 754/939 limit?!OS: win2k3CPU/Ram: athlon xp 2k+ |
Comment: I heard AMD was gonna introduce a new socket next year. I would like to know how far along will AMD go before it scraps its socket 754/939 processor fammilies and moves onto the new socket? Does anybody knows this?! I heard it was gonna scrap socket 754 with an Athlon64 3700+ (or was that a sepmron, I'm not sure, sry). What will be the limit to socket 939?! TIA P.S. Is then an Intel mobo/chip a better way to go? I really liked the ASRock 915GL budget mobo that is capable of simultaneous 5 monitor outputs? Anybody knows of such a mobo done on a chipset that's 1GHz FSB capable.
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Response Number 1
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Name: Free Weasel
Date: August 26, 2005 at 05:29:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)The problem with intel is that they changed the chipset for every new model of the pentium4 in the last years so you had to alway buy a new board if you wanted to install a newer version of the cpu. For socket754 there will be no newer Athlon64 cpus anymore but maybe a couple more Sempron for it. For socket939 there are the actual FX-57 and the actual dual core cpus up to Athlon64 X2 4800+ which should run on the actual boards with NForce4 Ultra and SLI chipset at least. How far AMD goes with this socket after presenting the new socket I don't know. But keep in mind that the name SocketA was used for over 5 years but still there had been a lot of upgrades on it which prevented using newer Athlon XP on older SocketA boards. For example I own a Asus A7V133 Board with Via KT133A Chipset. The maximal CPU I can use in it ist the Athlon XP Palomino 2100+. Something changed with the Thouroughbred core which prevented using it on my board!
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Response Number 2
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Name: .neo
Date: August 26, 2005 at 10:58:02 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Ok... Bottomline after some more browsing... Seems to me like it's not so wise to buy socket 939, not unless you MUST have dual core, which I don't. I just need a computer that will be able to play an odd game or two, and mostly be used like an office computer. So, it's gonna be either 64bit sempron socket 754 combo (which is nailed to Athlon64/Sempron 3700+) or Intel celeron D EM64T socket 775 combo (which since its Celeron D's support SSE3 sounds more and more tempting). So I guess the question now is: What's Intel got in mind and what will be the limit to its Celeron D processors (how long before it changes the FSB on 'em, making a new mobo unusable with a new processor - that's what AMD did for Thouroughbred in relation to Palomino, but I think KT133A should support Thouroughbred)?
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Response Number 3
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Name: Quicksilver
Date: August 26, 2005 at 14:38:04 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)"Ok... Bottomline after some more browsing... Seems to me like it's not so wise to buy socket 939, not unless you MUST have dual core, which I don't." That is not correct. There are plenty of options for 939 CPUs before you start to even think about going to dual core. AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 WinXP Pro. WinXP Pro x64 Nvidia:6800GT Dane Electronic Pro. Dual 1024MB 400MHz RAM Tagan 480Watt PSU: 28Amps on +12volt rail. Asus A8V Deluxe "WiFi" M/Board - Aqua
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Response Number 4
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Name: .neo
Date: August 27, 2005 at 01:31:42 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Please don't get offended, I didn't mean to say 939 was bad technology at all, just that almost all that's available on 939 can also be found on 754, excluding dual core and dual-channel memory...Which I don't need. FX chips are not budget, well not unless you meant spending the whole budget on just a chip. By the time they become "less pricey" M2 will be out. So it's my opinion that I'll skip 939. Now if only I could work out how long will Intel be taking it's Celeron D's and Pentiums working on "old" 915 chipset (I've read some conflicting stuff, one saying the whole new Cedar Mill Celeron core will be still working on the same FSB speed as the current are). If they're gonna make 4GHz chips without changing the FSB before that, it seems then that ASRock board with the nifty 5 monitor display output feature would be a better solution, upgrade-wise at least (power bill will be bigger then though :( ), than any socket 754 that I've seen???
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Response Number 5
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Name: indigian
Date: August 27, 2005 at 01:59:55 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)"I just need a computer that will be able to play an odd game or two, and mostly be used like an office computer." Your probably using it right now? Tt Lanfire MSI K8N Diamond AMD64 3000+'Venice' 1gb pc4400 OCZ Powerstream 520w 6600GT WDCaviar 160gb sata x2;~}
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Response Number 6
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Name: .neo
Date: August 27, 2005 at 02:01:50 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)UPDATE: Seems that Pentiums with the new Cedar Mill will top at 3.8GHz (read it in an article). Do you guys think new Celerons will top out at the same speed, or could they go one step up?!
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