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Name: polizi
Date: May 2, 2006 at 22:41:03 Pacific
Subject: socket 7 motherboard
OS: WIN XP SP2
CPU/Ram: AMD K-6
Model/Manufacturer: IBM
Comment:

I am looking fo a socket 7 motherboard for my old PC it has the AMD k6 processor and I want to upgrade it. Yes I know better stuff is availible but I like this little AMD processor and I want to keep it around. my old board is really cruddy it is an IBM aptiva and there are no bios updates for it that I can find so I want to replace it.


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Response Number 1
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: May 3, 2006 at 03:44:52 Pacific
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Your best bet is to look at computer markets, second hand stores and places like e-bay... but I dont like e-bay, the first ting I ever baught was burnt out : (

Even ask people if they have any old computers around that they dont want. I'm waiting for my freind to give up one of his Super socket 7 systems so I can fix it up to be my dream machine! OH and what exactly do you want to upgrade your BIOS for? If your current board has plenty-a-feature you might want to hold on to it.

Mattwizz3 : )

... meh


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: May 3, 2006 at 05:16:48 Pacific
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Not sure how IBM does things...a *real* motherboard may not work in an Aptiva case? (If that's your intention)

The following site has a 1/2 dozen socket 7 boards available. Avoid the SiS based boards completely. The ALi Aladdin based boards are much better, but the chipset had some problems & went thru a lot of revisions. From the 6 boards being offered, I'd suggest either the ASUS P5A or P5A-B. If you want a really decent performing socket 7 system, look for a board based on the VIA MVP3 chipset (unfortunately, this site doesn't have any):

http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/amdso7mo.html

Here's an old review of socket 7 boards...if nothing else, it'll give you an idea of model numbers to look for:

http://www.tomshardware.com/1998/07/31/socket_7_board_review_july_1998/


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Response Number 3
Name: zero244
Date: May 3, 2006 at 13:39:02 Pacific
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I just bought a new epox k7 board the other day. I got the board and simpron cpu after rebate for about 80 dollars. Just look at the specs to make sure your ram....video card etc will work. You should be able to still find a good socket 7 board new for less than 50 dollars.
I am like you.....my xp 2400 works great and is more than enough speed for me. I’m not a big buy the latest game kind of guy.
Check out Newegg or tirgerdirect.
Good luck.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: May 3, 2006 at 16:31:38 Pacific
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Too bad you paid $80 for a socket A board/CPU combo...you could have gotten this ECS Socket 754 nForce3 250 board & AMD Sempron 3100+ combo deal instead (no rebate involved):

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4705559


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Response Number 5
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 04:54:53 Pacific
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I great a great socket 7 board, If my memory is correct I think it was called a "TX PRO 2".

"PARIAH" [British By Birth]


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Response Number 6
Name: kramp
Date: May 4, 2006 at 09:00:11 Pacific
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The tx pro board is a pc chips board, the makers of the fake cache, relabeled chips, embedded cpu`s and if it was a scam they were most likely involved--STAY AWAY from pc chips boards----The fic 503+ was one of the first and probably the best super 7 board made although it is an AT format board and the jumpers are incredibly confusing but if you are brave enough to give it a try you will not be dissapointed.


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Response Number 7
Name: zero244
Date: May 4, 2006 at 15:34:19 Pacific
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Hey Jam......are you trying to wreck my day. You should never show someone a better deal.......after the fact. :)

Ive got another power supply coming when it gets here I’m going to crank up this motherboard and make sure it works. CPU's, motherboards, power supplies have a history of being bad out of the box sometimes. I bought a backup power supply a few years ago for a backup.......well when I needed it, it was doa out of the box. Some of the power supplies back then wouldn’t power up unless you had them connected to a motherboard, so you couldn’t just plug it in and see if its working.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: May 5, 2006 at 06:28:32 Pacific
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"I great a great socket 7 board, If my memory is correct I think it was called a "TX PRO 2"."

LOL... are you serious? Like kramp pointed out, it's a PCChips board! The "TX Pro 2" is actually an SiS chipset that was relabeled. PCChips was notorious for renaming crappy chipsets back in the socket 7 days, but they weren't the only one. Also, PCChips sold identical boards under several different brand names...Amptron, ECS, Elpina, Matsonic, to name some more familiar ones

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/59

http://www.stud.fernuni-hagen.de/q3998142/pcchips/aka.html

The FIC 503+ was one of the hottest boards of the socket 7 era (I still have mine). There's also the FIC PA-2013 which is the "sister" of the 503+ (I have one of those too...lol). Basically it's the ATX version w/168-pin SDRAM slots only...the 503+ supported both 72-pin SIMMs & 168-pin SDRAM.


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Response Number 9
Name: Pariah
Date: May 5, 2006 at 08:12:55 Pacific
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The board was part of my first computer setup. I bought it with a Cyrix 2x75mhz CPU. I went out and bought myself an AMD K6-2 550mhz CPU. Ater fiddeling with the odd jumper or 2 I got it to work, I even bumped it up to 600mhz. So, as far as my personal experience goes, this board is fantastic:-) All hail the mighty TX PRO II and god bless all who sail in her!

"PARIAH"[British.By.Birth]
P4 2.6 HT
Asrock P4VM800 M/B
1024mb DDR 400
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 9600 256mb


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: May 5, 2006 at 08:39:22 Pacific
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TX Pro II = SiS 5597/5598. The chipset only officially supported up to 75MHz FSB but many manufacturer's provided for the unofficial 83MHz FSB. AFAIK it did not support 100MHz FSB at all...I don't know how you got a CPU running at 600MHz?

Which one of these is your board:

http://motherboards.mbarron.net/models/pcchips/m567p.jpg

http://motherboards.mbarron.net/models/pcchips/m571p.jpg

http://motherboards.mbarron.net/models/pcchips/m596p.jpg


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Response Number 11
Name: Pariah
Date: May 5, 2006 at 08:49:01 Pacific
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Not too sure jam, it was a while ago, all I remember is it had an orange heatsink, so I would say the second or third of your links. It had jumpers for various vcores and also fsb and multiplier could be changed with jumpers. I definately had a k6-2 550 running at 600mhz, unstable but 600mhz none the less.

"PARIAH"[British.By.Birth]
P4 2.6 HT
Asrock P4VM800 M/B
1024mb DDR 400
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 9600 256mb


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Response Number 12
Name: Pariah
Date: May 5, 2006 at 09:01:14 Pacific
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If its any help, I remember it took edo ram aswell as some larger stuff?

"PARIAH"[British.By.Birth]
P4 2.6 HT
Asrock P4VM800 M/B
1024mb DDR 400
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 9600 256mb


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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: May 5, 2006 at 09:04:42 Pacific
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OK, I thought this was a board you were still using.


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Response Number 14
Name: Bill S.
Date: June 27, 2006 at 09:55:27 Pacific
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Hi all
I want to sound off in defense of SiS and Amptron/PCChips, These companies would be out of business if all they did was scam people, and there's certainly no defense on big companies mistakes along the way as well... it happens across the board in my opinion. I own a PCChips BK630e bookPC and it runs a 370 socket to 1GHz and 256 MB of memory, very nicely! but due to my 30GB HDD moved from my original eMachines eTower 700, it runs slowly due to all the programs on that one loading, etc. When I started a new formatted HDD with Windows alone, the speed was palpable.

I came across this thread while searching because a recent Goodwill PC find is a portable Aptiva IBM using the socket 7 SiS video mobo, It seemed w/o the installation disk it looks for drivers and defaults to standard VGA PCI, and that doesn't cut it. The 3GB drive with the machine is loaded with content like Office 97 and all the needed drivers, but I would like to try a much higher drive running Windows 98 SE.

I also had problems with a slot 1 HP that runs 370 socket era CPU's the Celerons and P2/P3s of the 1990 era, it shuts down and reboots over and over on odd occasions, but is driving me nuts, and Windows loads, when successful, as if nothing happened...very strange
BILL SCHWENKE


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