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Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A

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Name: SumDup
Date: May 7, 2008 at 01:12:41 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
OS: Home Preimum 32 soon 2b u
CPU/Ram: 3GB
Comment:
First time clocker, did abit of reasearch sofar, its definately a thinking mans game that coupled with idle hands. thought id ask where would be best to start if start at all i even can with a Packard bell creation? help and advice would be recieved! all questions answered if for my benefit.

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Response Number 1
Name: SumDup
Date: May 7, 2008 at 01:17:14 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
apart from overclocking my cpu, is my ram running at optimal speed?

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Response Number 2
Name: SumDup
Date: May 7, 2008 at 01:20:55 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
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http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/58...

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/...

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Response Number 3
Name: SumDup
Date: May 7, 2008 at 03:48:15 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
any lil piece of info would be deemed usefull, iv spent alota time tryn ta educate myself on this subject and im getn tired of it 2say the least. pity sum1 couldnt just write a program to automatically oc a pc and its components to just below their limits, what a perfect world we would live in then!!

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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: May 7, 2008 at 05:14:53 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
I'm unable to view your pics right now (at work, site is blocked) but have you looked at the options in the BIOS yet? Most OEM systems (Dell, HP, Gateway, Packard Bell, etc) use a barebones BIOS to prevent too much user tampering. If you don't have the BIOS settings necessary for overclocking (FSB, CPU multiplier, CPU & RAM voltages, RAM timings, RAM speed, PCI-e lock, etc), you're not gonna accomplish much of anything. There is overclocking software available, but what you can do with it is very limited.

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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 7, 2008 at 11:44:09 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
I agree with jam.

OEM machines are not overclock-friendly. You'll have to live with what you got.


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Response Number 6
Name: sumdup
Date: May 8, 2008 at 01:53:43 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
i see. had a look in the bios alright (i updated it and all), it does seem to be locked sumhow. premium 32bit at mo but expecting ultimate upgrade in the post and gona clean install 64bit. you see im configuring my PB iextreme x2711 /converting it to a dedicated DAW and obviously ocing her is a tempting prospect to squeeze sum extra juice (weather i need it or not, but sumthin tells me i will). is it safe to oc a machine when software is installed? probably not. so would replacing my mobo allow me to modify? or am i locked simply coz i havent the know how to unlock it. i know its dangerous gettn into this as a first timer nd all but my interest plus need for speed is getting the best of me. ill prob endup cuttn the wrong wire r sumthin and sending evrythin into the middle of nxtweek, but then again if i follow u2s guide and then slam into reverse psychology, being an internet pupil i know everything! no?

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Response Number 7
Name: sumdup
Date: May 8, 2008 at 01:58:22 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
(u2s new(ish) album)
was thinking bout buying a newer quad extreme but i jst thought if i cud overclock this1 then i cud spend d money on other things.

edit;
(just finalized a bid on ebay there for a HP DV9700T T9300 2.5GHz 4GB ddr2 240GB 17"...sweet! thats me outa pocket for the next while anyway. mite need help ocn that baby2!)


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: May 8, 2008 at 08:42:35 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
This isn't a chat room, we don't use l33t speak or chat slang here. Please try to use proper english.

Anyhow, you're apparently not from the US because Packard Bell pulled out of the US market years ago (thank god).

"is it safe to oc a machine when software is installed?"

That's not a problem, but you need to have a system that's overclockable (which you don't have). You also need to know when to say "when". Overclocking isn't an exact science...it's trial & error. What works one one system may not necessarily work on another.

"or am i locked simply coz i havent the know how to unlock it"

There's nothing to unlock. As I said in an earlier response, OEM builders deliberately use a crippled BIOS to prevent people from tampering with the settings. If a *real* BIOS was used, newbie's would attempt to overclock, then flood the tech support lines with calls asking why their system won't boot anymore.

"just finalized a bid on ebay there for a HP DV9700T"

Why would you buy a laptop on eBay? Just so you know, you can't overclock that either.

BTW, Bono sucks!

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Response Number 9
Name: sumdup
Date: May 8, 2008 at 13:56:42 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
whats wrong with buying laptop from ebay? (usa). sounds like i should have asked here for advice first. 700euro for that baby refurbished not bad i thought. where is better to buy pc stuff? BTW im Irish (Connemara to be specific). ok so im screwed with the bios on both. bummer. ya im not emotionally attached to bono me, (some people seem to be ALOT) (actually i couldnt give a F*#k bout him!!) however the band is quite good and some of their songs legendary... also i do know the name of their album. oh well thanks for your help anyway, ill continue on my journey of stripping down the google system of in the way lingerie. ill do some more research on changing the bios (completely). ive seen a little chip (Cartridge) in corner of mobo with phoenix written on it, maybe i could get 1 of them (it looks plug and playish)wtever!. worst comes to worst ill just pick up my local business directory and consult a pro.
Well thanks for the auld chat guys!

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Response Number 10
Name: sumdup
Date: May 8, 2008 at 15:28:16 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
any1 who stumbled upon this thread with similar interests here mite be a help in hand for you... http://forums.techpowerup.com/showt...

it will also help you with desktops (i think) limited bios or not.


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Response Number 11
Name: jam
Date: May 8, 2008 at 19:48:17 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
I mentioned overclocking software earlier, but it's very limited as to what you can do with it.

The reason you shouldn't overclock a laptop is two-fold. 1st, laptops have poor cooling characteristics due to the compact size. The system is generally setup to underclock the CPU under lightload conditions...this keep the temps manageable. Overclocking causes more heat. 2nd, the underclocking feature also helps to conserve battery power, overclocking will do the opposite.

Attempting to change the BIOS chip on your Pack-Bell isn't a good idea. You could try to identify the board to see if there's a retail version available, then cross flash to the retail BIOS, but it's risky business. It could make your board totally useless.

Have a look here...is this your board??

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?...

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Response Number 12
Name: SumDup
Date: May 8, 2008 at 21:32:11 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
those mobos dont support the q6600 i dont think. it says foxconn on my board.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/25...

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/...

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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: May 9, 2008 at 06:14:27 Pacific
Subject: Q6600 Packard Bell BV PT890-8237A
Reply: (edit)
I couldn't find any boards on the Foxconn website based on the VIA PT890 chipset, not even in the discontinued section.

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/en%2D...

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/en%2D...

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