reliability is the exact reason that you would buy a PC power and cooling ps dont think if it as a ferrari think of it as cadillac it has all the whizbang features that you want plus a powerful engine and it runs forever or at least till about 165k miles lol you cant trust ratings on powersupplies these days you have to go for the high quality brand names because you get what you pay for, and you know that you're getting the highest of quality when your ps is backed up by a five year warranty ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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Thanks for all of the recommendations and yes, what was I thinking switching the voltage. Hopefully this all works out, thanks.

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LOL, Giggles... How many power supplies have you bought for yourself and clients? Not picking on you, just curious. MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/prices/index.htm If you have a better source for them that's cheaper, please enlighten me. I love their power supplies. MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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i have never actually bought one before but i do know that they are the best remember i never spend more than $100 on any pc part all i have is one 450watt L&C and one 420watt okia yuck! ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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OK...Giggles, let me get this straight... You'd spend close to $100 for a power supply that, granted, is a tank, but still a $40 Thermaltake is reliable. But you won't spend more than $100 on any other component... Sounds to me like misguided priorities. At least when you overspend on a graphics card or CPU, you often can at least see a difference. If the power supply works, it works. A better analogy is if you want to get to work, and you spend more than twice the amount of money for a car that looks, drives, handles the same, but is more reliable than an already reliable car when you were on a budget. Ohh, and you know you probably won't be driving that car in another five years anyway. MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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Something was brought to my attention & I wanna make a correction: "PC Power and Cooling are expensive? I must have lucked out then...I got a 450 watt unit w/dual fans from Compgeeks for $15" It wasn't PC Power & Cooling...it was Real PC Power...& it was $16, not $15...lol. Here it is if you care to have a look: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=RP450-N

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that makes A LOT more sense! LOL! MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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"You'd spend close to $100 for a power supply that, granted, is a tank, but still a $40 Thermaltake is reliable. But you won't spend more than $100 on any other component..." NO thats not what i said. I wont spend more than $100 on any componet. I definetly would not spend close to $100 on a powersupply. My okia ps came in a nice case for $30 and my L&C ps came in a fancy smancy xblade case for $90. For that $90 i got 2 80mm led case fans, thumbscrews, a case that i really wanted, and a ps. Plus this was at a local comp shop so i had to pay a little extra, maybe if it had been on newegg i could have gotten it for $60 shipped. imm sure that your thermaltake psu for $40 is very reliable and that it suits many peoples needs just fine my only point was that pc power and cooling make the best powersupplies available to the public if you have $200 to spend on one ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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And Rolls-Royce's are the world's finest automobiles...what's your point? I don't see the value in something so expensive unless it does something more than something that's less expensive. That includes reliability. So unless the PC Power & Cooling can use the bathroom for me, no thanks. ;-) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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it has a five year warranty can your thermaltake do that? maybe my point really was that you have to buy from good name brands because you cant trust the ratings in generic pus's i havent quite woke up yet today so my cognitive abilities are struggling ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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Buying from a good name brand...I'm all about that. Thermaltake is good. PC Power & Cooling better... BUT, it's not $60 better! ;-) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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sure thats all good and true but one thing which we have all forgotten to mention is the horrible results of a powersupply failure im talking about loss of motherboard cpu vid card and harddrive and almost everything else that is plugged into it i spent good money i my computer just like everyone else here and i will hate to see when my cheap powersupplies die in who knows when and take everything else with them that pc power and cooling 5 year warranty is piece of mind ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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"LOL, Giggles... How many power supplies have you bought for yourself and clients?" and LOL to you, Heropsycho, remember im 15, i dont have any clients ;) i dont make money working around computers like you do, but i wish i did ^(-.-)~~~]>:}>

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OK, so you're saying a good quality power supply like a Thermaltake is gonna fail on you? So could a PC Power and Cooling. Look, no product is perfect. I'd put money on the PC Power and Cooling to last longer, too, but again, I've also used about 10 Thermaltake power supplies and none of them died. And once again...there is that massive price difference. My point about how many power supplies you've bought for yourself and clients was simply illustrating that you're arguing about something you have very little experience in almost as if you're an expert in the subject. I'm not gonna get into an argument with an seasoned car mechanic about car parts. ;-) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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lol alright youve won another argument but i still make valid points whether or not i have experience with either of those powersupplies 5 year warranty=piece of mind plus you know that pc power and cooling use the highest quality parts and to make another point i dont have to have personal experience with 2 products to know which one is better as long as i get my information from a reliable source such as maximum pc magazine or from people like jam and skip on this site then the information that i pass on to other people is still valid you and i both know that the pc power and cooling ps(its more powerful, quieter, and longer lasting, plus it has extra features like cables prewrapped in mesh tubing and sata power connectors) is better than the thermaltake, just maybe not enough to justify the price difference now the poor guy just asked for ps reccomendations and you gave him yours and i gave him mine what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other

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LOL, dude, it's cool. I just like to torture you sometimes and beat some sense into you. :-P (I'm kidding.) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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I have used a cheap power supply that came with my case 4 years ago and just replaced it with a Okia 420W el cheapo. works fine not overly noisy.My old power supply was only 250 watt,it started making a real racket so I slapped it a few tmes and it was fine again. I think it depends on what kind of a drain you put on it, like multiple hard drives.If anyone has any positive reviews on Okia 420W pleas let me know.

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i have an okia powersupply that came in a $30 case the thing is pure crap it weighs maybe a pound it has no cooling besides one fan on the back and it only has 4 molexes total what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other

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