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Name: richard yang
Date: December 14, 2003 at 17:42:11 Pacific
OS: window xp
CPU/Ram: 2.64oc/1ghzmb
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what is phase changing and what does it do-
thank you



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Response Number 1
Name: real_cool
Date: December 14, 2003 at 17:59:47 Pacific
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Depends on what you are trying to find out.

Phase change can be freezing water to become solid ice, or boiling water to become steam.

Alernate current to Director current is also considered as phase change.

Setting a log on fire so it turns into ashes could be phase change also.


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Response Number 2
Name: SkipCox
Date: December 14, 2003 at 20:55:56 Pacific
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When the tape on the bottom of your heatsink changes from a solid to a nearly liquid putty, that a phase change. When you turn your rig off and it changes back into a solid again, thats another phase change. I believe it happens at about 58~60°C

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Response Number 3
Name: Boboy
Date: December 14, 2003 at 21:17:48 Pacific
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When this phase change occurs does it have an effect on the performance of the HSF?


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Response Number 4
Name: SkipCox
Date: December 14, 2003 at 22:22:21 Pacific
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The effect it has is the desired one of softening the thermal pad to the point that it flows into all the microscopic imperfections in the heatsink and cpu. The heatsink is under pressure from the retention clip insuring a good interface between the two.

Let's say you just installed your heatsink. You fire up the machine and the cpu heats up pretty good because of the poor interface between it and the heatsink, the thermal pads changes from a solid to nearly liquid and gives the desired interface that allows maximum heat transfer from the cpu to the heatsink. Next time you start your rig, it doesn't heat up enough to melt the thermal pad again. That's the desired reaction and a good reason to replace the thermal pad with another or thermal paste if you ever dismount the heatsink.

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Response Number 5
Name: xXx-hotShot-xXx
Date: December 14, 2003 at 22:42:20 Pacific
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This tells about phase changeing
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1124222,00.asp


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Response Number 6
Name: Boboy
Date: December 14, 2003 at 22:50:05 Pacific
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So a thermal pad's effectiveness only increases when the cpu heats up unlike a thermal paste which constantly provides a good interface between the cpu and HSF because of its "semi-liquid" form?


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Response Number 7
Name: Rob
Date: December 14, 2003 at 23:08:30 Pacific
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At AMD's web site it says that a thermal pad should be used if u plan to keep the heatsink on the cpu for a long period of time. Thermal paste should only be used if u plan to take the heatsink off often, each time u take off the heatsink it says u should clean the heatsinks and cpu also. I have always used thermal paste and I bet most people on this site do also....


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Response Number 8
Name: SkipCox
Date: December 15, 2003 at 00:11:07 Pacific
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Yup, most of us do use paste. The cpu should get hottest at initial startup regardless of the compound used.
Once the little valleys are filled by whatever compound, the cpu should run cooler. I watched my last install with RadioShack compound drop about 6°C in just 20 minutes, then remain stable at 49°C. Some compounds take longer (up to several days) to cure. It's really nothing to worry about if initial temps are reasonable.
An improperly installed heatsink will never cool at a reasonable temperature.

If ya want to see some how not to do it examples, go here:

http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/Job/Pictures/ScrewUps/Heatsink_and_Paste/

BTW, I came across this site when I found out this morning that a program I'd been recommending was stolen from him.

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Response Number 9
Name: robdos
Date: December 15, 2003 at 01:05:51 Pacific
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paste screw up 5 is my favourite i think!


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Response Number 10
Name: ~Shawn~
Date: December 15, 2003 at 05:18:04 Pacific
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Mine is the "no paste".


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Response Number 11
Name: Rob
Date: December 16, 2003 at 21:23:04 Pacific
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I like tear off before use!!!!!!!!!


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