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Subject: Pentium D's

Original Message
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 7, 2008 at 20:02:30 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
OS: NA
CPU/Ram: NA
Model/Manufacturer: IBM ThinkCentre M52
Comment:
I want to upgrade the Pentium 4 in my thinkcentre to a Pentium D.

The latest BIOS update only says "Updates BIOS support for the Pentium D D0 step processor"

But will a C1 stepping work? I figure D0 being the "max". That is the only mention of the Pentium D on the BIOS page.


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Response Number 1
Name: Cobra_R
Date: March 7, 2008 at 20:22:09 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Yes all it is, is the stepping version there is no phyical diff between D0 and C1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...


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Response Number 2
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 7, 2008 at 21:06:40 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
I was thinking MicroCode issues... Things like "This
processor is not compatible with your system."

(seen that error even on a Pentium II system)


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Response Number 3
Name: Cobra_R
Date: March 7, 2008 at 23:52:47 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Na you're fine. The microcode has become a none issues with modern chipsets.

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Response Number 4
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 8, 2008 at 00:00:16 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Ok great, sounds like I'll be saving up for a 200 dollar
processor then.

(gonna max out my motherboard and get the 3.6GHz
version)


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Response Number 5
Name: jackbomb
Date: March 8, 2008 at 00:52:33 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Why spend $200 on an outdated CPU when, for just $150, you could get a P35-based board + Pentium e2180 that would outperform the hot, inefficient Pentium D?

The creme de la creme of Socket 939:
Opty 185 @ 3.2GHz
SLI'ed GTS-640s, both flashed to 625/1458/1950
4GB PC3200
Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, X-Fi
A8N32-SLI Deluxe
3DMark06: 13896


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Response Number 6
Name: quarantinedjk
Date: March 8, 2008 at 02:32:08 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
use to own a pentium d 950....good cpu it preformed well at most games and applications...

But the overheating is a real problem...
pentium d- (45c idle) (63c load) 95 to 130 watts consumption

core 2 duo-(33c idle) (45c load) 65 to 95 Watts consumption

i would choose a E4500 over the pentium d...it preforms WAY better then any Pentium D models

P35 board are a great choice for future upgrades

C2D all the way ...if u want a silent PC


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Response Number 7
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 8, 2008 at 05:45:47 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
jackbomb, because the Pentium D would be the fastest my
computer can take, and I'd rather not upgrade because I got
this computer for free only a couple weeks ago..

It's a BTX motherboard, so I don't see upgrades for boards..

Besides, I don't care if it's outdated.. I don't game, only
video encode..

Cooling is not a problem for me either...


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: March 8, 2008 at 06:41:30 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
It would help to know which CPU you currently have. If you're upgrading to gain a few 100MHz in overall clock speed, this upgrade is a total waste of money.

You also don't mention how much RAM you have, but if it's only say, 512MB, your money would be much better spent on RAM.

And even though you're not a gamer, installing a video card & getting off the crappy Intel GMA950 graphics would help performance as well.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...


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Response Number 9
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 9, 2008 at 12:11:55 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
I currently have a single core Pentium 4 thats 3GHz.

The problem is HyperThreading sucks to pretend having a
second core. I need a real second core for what I do.

I have 3GB RAM.


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: March 9, 2008 at 13:28:05 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
According to the link I posted above, the max CPU upgrade is the Pentium D 950, unless you found something that says differently?

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PD...

BTW, how is cooling not a problem with a SFF case?


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Response Number 11
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 9, 2008 at 15:25:32 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Mine is the 8113 model...

I have many fans I can install. It is NOT a problem


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: March 9, 2008 at 15:31:41 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Since you seem to have all the answers already, why did you bother asking?

"I have many fans I can install"

are you gonna cut many holes in the case for your many fans?


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Response Number 13
Name: Hakemon
Date: March 9, 2008 at 15:37:50 Pacific
Subject: Pentium D's
Reply: (edit)
Because I was originally asking stepping information, if you
read my original post.

The case has many holes already in it. The whole front is an
air intake system, and it has a big grille on the back for an exhaust fan.

You also forgot BIOS update can support more CPUs.


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