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Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core

Original Message
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 07:01:25 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
OS: Win XP
CPU/Ram: 1 GB
Model/Manufacturer: Intel
Comment:
Hi,

I have Intel Pentium 4 HT 524 (3.06) wich i am currently overcloking upto 3.68 Ghz with a core 2 duo fan installed, system is running nicely and the heatsink is warm not hot, i cant get the temeperature in windows.

any ways i want to buy a dual core processor and intel has a dual core series of 1.6 and 1.8 which have same cores as core 2 duo and 65nm.

so would 1.8ghz be better then my current cpu or not ?


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Response Number 1
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 09:00:04 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
my system specs are

i have P4 Ht 524 3.06Ghz at 533 FSB
motherboard is Asus P5B Wifi/Ap 946Gz
Ram 1GB TwinMoss 577 bus
Power Supply 430 Watts (CoolerMaster)

my mother board has overclocking profiles when i overclock it to 20% its stable but when i overclock it to 30% it restarts on windows screen so should i stop overclockin it at 20% or try it at 30% with a water cooling? is it worth the effort ????



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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: August 12, 2007 at 10:10:17 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
You don't need watercooling, you need to learn to overclock the right way. That means manually configuring the BIOS settings, not using some dumba$$ preconfigured profiles.


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Response Number 3
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 12:51:56 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
manually its complicated. but ill try


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Response Number 4
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 17:53:33 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
there are four options when i manually try, they are :-

1 CPU Frequency which can be adjustable from 133 to 400

2 Memory Frequency which cannot be adjusted only "auto" and "DDR-577" comes so i have it on auto

3 PCI-E Frequency which can be set from 90 to 150 but i have it on auto as well because no card is installed at the moment.

4 V-Core lots of temperature upto i guess 1.5 something but i have it on 1.4000


i have only changed 133 to 166 which takes my cpu to 3.81 GHz and it is stable at this position.

i havent try 167 or 168 i jumped to 200 and problems started from word go the system wont give display and restarts so i gave more vcore about 1.415 but same result and when the system comes back it says overclocking failed or overvaultage failed.

is this mean that i cant go further than this or do i have to do something else..

i opened CPU Z it showed that FSB:DRAM is 1:2 how can it be changed from bios or is this ok...


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: August 12, 2007 at 18:47:19 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
There is no "DDR-577"...do you mean DDR2-667? And while we're at it, is your board an "ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP" rather than an "Asus P5B Wifi/Ap 946Gz"? And could the "946Gz" actually be the "P965" chipset?

The CPU:DRAM ratio should be 1:1, not 1:2. In other words, if the CPU freq is 166MHz, the RAM freq should also be 166MHz (DDR2-333).

AI tuning should be set to manual. The PCI-e freq should be locked in at 100MHz. PCI clock should be locked at 33.33MHz. Spread Spectrum should ALWAYS be disabled. RAM timings can be adjusted once you settle in on a RAM freq.


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Response Number 6
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 19:09:00 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
yeah sorry its not 577 its DDR2-533, and the board is Asus P5B-MX/Wifi-AP 946Gz.

i now tried 168 and system is fine, ran games too, but i cant find the ratio of FSB:DRAM


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Response Number 7
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 19:52:07 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
i tried my best but couldnt find the ratio between FSB:DRAM, there was things to change latency of ram but nothing related to ratio and for the PCI-e Frequency when i set it to 100 PC shuts down at the start as soon as i save the setings and exit bios. iguess this board is not good for overclocking waiting for you reply

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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: August 12, 2007 at 20:20:56 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
"i tried my best but couldnt find the ratio between FSB:DRAM"

There's not an actual setting for the ratio...you have to configure the CPU & RAM so that they run at 1:1.


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Response Number 9
Name: GameOver
Date: August 12, 2007 at 22:45:37 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
ohhhh thanx man got your point now

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Response Number 10
Name: GameOver
Date: August 13, 2007 at 13:09:42 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
hey jam i tried to play with the ram latency rate i droppeid to 3 3 3 9 something so that the bus goes down, but same behaviour, and plz tell me when i save seting and exit bios a strange sound comes like "tick" and system shuts down and then powers on by itself i dont know if thats power supply or hard drive which makes the sound. and plz can i overclock my cpu on 430 wats power supply ?

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Response Number 11
Name: GameOver
Date: August 13, 2007 at 14:10:06 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
by th way i took it upto 3.86 GHZ games ran fine system worked fine i used for nearly 8 hours, but one thing i noticed in whole day when ever i shut down the system shutdowns quickly and when i power it on windows starts scan disk so i guess its not a successful overclocking?

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Response Number 12
Name: Uzair Mughal (by exist2inspire)
Date: October 12, 2007 at 03:29:02 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
is the asus p5b-mx 946gz board good for overclocking? specifically, can it sustain at least 333mhz fsb with a e6400 or similar processor?

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Response Number 13
Name: GameOver
Date: October 12, 2007 at 14:05:44 Pacific
Subject: Pentium 4 HT or Pentium Dual Core
Reply: (edit)
hey uzair,

well curently i have e2180 on it and its upto 2.6ghz, my FSB is upto 260, when i push more my system is unstable, and i am sure its because of ram, so if good ram, powersuply, and cpu cooler may be u can hit 333.



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