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Name: Richard Trahar
Date: January 13, 2003 at 11:53:16 Pacific
Subject: palimino Athlon XP vs Athlon XP th
OS: Windows XP Professional
CPU/Ram: Athlon XP 2100+ / 768MB D
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Recently installed a program and it told me it was An Athlon XP 2100+ Paimino ( not sure how to spell it ), what exactly is the difference between the thouroughbread Athlon XP and the Palimino Athlon XP

my temps are 43c idle and 48c full load

Thanks for any help

Richard


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Response Number 1
Name: 666
Date: January 13, 2003 at 12:30:40 Pacific
Subject: palimino Athlon XP vs Athlon XP th
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Tbreds are made on a 0.13 microm process and the palaminos are 0.18 .

The tbreds run alot cooler since they run on lower voltages and smaller die size


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Response Number 2
Name: BillyBob
Date: January 13, 2003 at 14:26:23 Pacific
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The tbreds actually run hotter. Yes, they produce less heat, but the die is something like 30% smaller which means there is 30% less surface area in contact with the heatsink which means it can't dissipate heat as well. Later


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Response Number 3
Name: 666
Date: January 13, 2003 at 15:53:07 Pacific
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hotter?? then why does my overclocked tbred 1800+ run 10 degrees cooler then my old palamino 1800+ did at stock speeds?


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Response Number 4
Name: brian
Date: January 13, 2003 at 16:04:21 Pacific
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T,breds run cooler so ive heard...

I've a Tbred 2400xp on the idle temp is 30 degrees C


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Response Number 5
Name: Richard Trahar
Date: January 13, 2003 at 16:11:46 Pacific
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ok thank all you have all been great help


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Response Number 6
Name: BillyBob
Date: January 13, 2003 at 18:49:08 Pacific
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Hmmm, nevermind. I guess I'm wrong. I've just read that and I believed it because I'm getting high temps on my xp2200. hmmm...


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Response Number 7
Name: D@VE
Date: January 13, 2003 at 21:54:10 Pacific
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BillyBob, if you are getting high temps, I would like to suggest to you my cooling setup, but I will say it is extremely loud.
Thermalright SLK800 paired with a Vantec 80mm tornado. The fan itself is 55 decibles. Very noisy, but my temps went from 45c idle 55c load to 30c idle and 33 - 35c load. And that's O/C'ed from 1.4 to 1.6

Asus A7N8X / XP1700+ / Corasair XMS Cas 2 PC2700 512DDR


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Response Number 8
Name: Mike B Australian
Date: January 14, 2003 at 06:40:23 Pacific
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Thoroughbreds, I'm not sure temperature-wise, run within 1 - 5% the same performance of the Palomino other. Not worth spending the Xtra money in my opinion, but the XP2200's and above might be a different story...


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Response Number 9
Name: 666
Date: January 14, 2003 at 09:16:43 Pacific
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I don't know about the rest of the world, but in my part of Canada, Tbreds cost the same as palaminos of the same speed. The preformance is equal to palaminos up to 2100+. above that its only tbreds


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Response Number 10
Name: UTLLAMA
Date: January 14, 2003 at 17:05:13 Pacific
Subject: palimino Athlon XP vs Athlon XP th
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Both CPUs cost the same.

The palamino runs at 1.75v, the tbred at 1.5v

The tbred does run cooler, but you need a good heatsink/fan because you have a 30% smaller die size which gives you less surface with which to dissipate heat. The tbred is a much better overclocker, and is unlocked by default with certain motherboards. The palamino needs to be physically altered to adjust the multipliers.


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