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P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed

Original Message
Name: FLiP956
Date: April 26, 2007 at 02:20:54 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
OS: WVU
CPU/Ram: P4 641,631 - Celeron D 35
Model/Manufacturer: eMachines/Intel
Comment:
Ok new computer (eMachines W3623).
P4 641 advertised @ 3.2ghz.
Cpu-Z showing it @ 2399.03ghz and fluctuating although never going past 2400.00ghz. It can't get clocked into what it should be using ClockGen. It'll just go back to 2399.00 give or take a few digits right of the decimal. Is this crap normal? I installed it in two other computers only to have it show up @ 2399.00ghz also. Any tips on what could be causing the dramatic decline in speed? All other cpu's show up at their regular n overclocked speeds when switched around mobo's. This one has the same outcome in all mobo's. Would there be a good reason for the seemingly underclockage or possibly a "bad" chip - I know eMachines are targeted to budgeted peeps. Thanks in advance for any replies.

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Response Number 1
Name: wemby089
Date: April 26, 2007 at 06:29:00 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
Your fsb should be 200 and the multi should be 16. Check cpuz and see where you are and repost

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Response Number 2
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 26, 2007 at 08:28:34 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
You must have messed something up with the use of ClockGen. As hinted above, you've got a 200MHz bus CPU (800MHz quad pumped). So, two things are off here - either you are currently using a 12x multiplier with the bus still at 200MHz or you're sitting at 150MHz with a 16x multiplier.

Eitherway, you need to elaborate more on the problem, has it always been this way? Did it suddenly happen & what did you do prior to the anomaly?


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Response Number 3
Name: FLiP956
Date: April 26, 2007 at 13:11:04 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
ClockGen was used only on the P4 631 and the Celeron D 352. It was set to apply options on start up with over clockage at a minimum. 3.0gz @ 3.019ghz. Then the p4 641 was introduced and it's speed was instantly showing up at a decreased rate. 3.2ghz @ 2.4ghz. I then switched the 641 back into it's original mob0 (where it had done the same thing without the introduction of GlockGen or any other overclocking software) only to have the same reduced speed. In short , A brand-new p4 641 has been clocking at a slower speed (2.4ghz instead of it's 3.2ghz) in more than one mobo without any mods.

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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: April 26, 2007 at 15:34:16 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
Did ya buy the W3623 at Walmart? just curious....

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...

http://www.emachines.com/products/p...

You're only telling us part of the CPUZ info. You've been asked twice & you still haven't answered this question: what is CPUZ reporting for the multiplier & FSB settings?

Why did you jump straight into ClockGen rather than running thru the BIOS settings? or did you do that but neglected to tell us? And since you ripped into your brand new PC & removed the CPU (most likely voiding the eMachines warranty), did you verify the markings to confirm that it actually is a P4 641/3.2GHz?


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Response Number 5
Name: TMP-Man
Date: April 26, 2007 at 20:08:52 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
Could it be the Enhanced Intel Speed Step kicking in? Have you try to right click on desktop -> properties -> screen save -> power -> power scheme and select always on. Now is your P4 641 running at 3.2Ghz?

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
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Response Number 6
Name: FLiP956
Date: April 27, 2007 at 11:38:48 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
First off thanks for the abundant help guys, I have been offline due to unstable dsl :(
But yes, I did buy it at Walmart and the multiplier is at x12. I did check the CPU and it is a P4 641 @3.2ghz/2MB/800. When I get back online(should be at least a day),I will post more CPU-Z info. I have not tried TMP-Man's suggestion but will today n repost asap. FSB was @ 199.00. I jumped into ClockGen with my other mobo because my primary mobo's BIOS is not supported by either intel or eMachines (I'm locked out of my cpu settings in my BIOS). I am not worried about the warranty, I only took the p4 out and replaced it with a celeron d 352 and resold the machine.

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Response Number 7
Name: FLiP956
Date: April 27, 2007 at 18:12:02 Pacific
Subject: P4 641 Lower Stock Clock Speed
Reply: (edit)
"Enhanced Intel SpeedStep" I believe may be the source of my "problem" if indeed there IS a problem. I monitor the speed and multi and both increase as I work the processor harder. Go figure. Does anyone know more about this EIST? Should I start a new post regarding this subject? Some more basic info on EIST. http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....

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