hi i just tried overclocking my amd xp 1600+ and now it runs at 1800+ stable and the temps are good too, however whenever i try to go more the bios resets the fsb back to 133. i currently have it at 145. I didnt touch the cpu clock ratio settings and the vcore,. Can someone suggest me what should the vcore be and the cpu clock ratio thanks. my sys specs; windows xp pro msi k7t turbo 2 mobo (via kt133a chipset) leadtek winfast geforce 4 4400 SB Live 5.1 Digital Western Digital 20gb HD cdrw & cd rom drive

I have this board; it's a crappy overclocker and you've done all the easy stuff. Going further will require you to unlock the 1600+ and I'm told the pencil trick is not recommended for the 1600+. Even if you can unlock the 1600+, a 12x multi seems to be max. You're at 10.5 multi now and if you can get to 12x you'll have something close to a 2200+. That said, I don't think it's worth the effort. This board only accepts SDRAM and clock increases to a 2200+ or whatever just won't do much good. The memory is the bottleneck here. Now, there's nothing wrong with playing with this stuff but, the return on your time and materials investment will be minimal. Benchmark scores will go up if you're just looking for bragging rights but I don't think you'll see it in everyday use or gaming. IMO another 256Meg memory chip would make more difference. There is also no way to lock the agp and pci busses on this board so where the fsb goes the agp and pci will follow. The vcore on this board defaults at 1.75v and you can adjust it up or down in bios. Only thing is; it seems to try to stay at 1.75v or as close as it can. If I drop it from 1.75 to 1.65 I still get reports of around 1.71v or so on all the monitor programs I've downloaded. I'm not telling you to stop here, I simply don't think it's worth the effort. You'll get other opinions, but fact is the RAM will kill ya. Skip

thanks for your reply skip, i personally think its a great mobo but the only thing that sux about it is that it only accepts sdram. I got it it like 2 years ago and surprisingly it supports the 2600+ (non barton) , i think ill go ahead and upgrade to 2600+ and overclock it to 3200+, or do ya think it would be worthless upgrading the cpu since i only have sdram, should i buy new nforce 2 mobo.

Yup, I justify a purchase like this by using the 2000+ I just bought or a 2600+ by telling myself I'll use that processor in my next board. But with the flood of 333 and 400Mhz chipsets and processors that doesn't make much sense now either. So, back to my lo buck technology. The Duron currently in my board will be added to the gyppo board I got bundled with the 2000+ and I'll give it to a friend. The 2000+ will go on this board and likely just stay. Next purchase will be components necessary to build a pimp machine where I finally buy some good stuff. The 2600+ costs about 40 bucks more than a 1800+ on the street in central california and it would be a drop in. Deal is, you're gonna drop a hundred bucks or so on a retail 2600+ and you might be able to find that same processor bundled with a good motherboard for around $150. In your shoes, I'd leave the 1600+ on the MSI board as it is now and save my money for some better stuff. Good 266Mhz components are getting cheaper and cheaper as the market floods with 333 and 400Mhz stuff. Something to think about. You'll get more replys and advice here. Skip

"do ya think it would be worthless upgrading the cpu since i only have sdram" I agree with that statement.

Back to your main question Sergio, I think it will be safe to raise the VCore to 0,05 or 0,1V above normal so you can see if it works. But your problem may not be the cpu but one of your cards who won't run properly on the PCI/AGP (ISA if you have) speed. You can caeck it by pulling all card except the graphic card!

Free, This board runs vcore from 1.550v to 1.850v in 0.025v increments. That bit of useless information is ok to know but the damn board will still give you crap like 1.710v in any reporting utility I can find when you have it set at 1.650. That's just one example and it does vary some between programs, but not much. How the hell does one know where he's really at? May not be a big deal as I can see slight temp differences at different vcore settings. Lower than 1.650 also gives an iffy soft restart. Board acts like it wants to run at the default of 1.750v regardless of what I ask it to do. I have not tried to go up with vcore voltage as it won't oc well enough to make that an option.