You may be able to find a motherboard number screen printed on the board near the PCI Slots that might give you a good lead. You may find that the motherboard is capable of using a faster CPU. Like one that uses a 133mhz FSB. Which would be a better option than overclocking the one you have. If you must over clock... keep in mind that your FSB is also how fast your RAM runs. So if you are using a 100mhz FSB then your memory may only be PC100 SDRAM and is ONLY rated to run at or below 100 MHZ. Much higher than 100mhz can fry cheap RAM. Get some PC133 SDRAM, which is rated to run up to 133mhz. Here is a link to a chart outling which PentiumIIIs can run on a 133mhz FSB: http://www.buildorbuy.org/p3-ram.html You would, of course, need to verify that your current BIOS can support a given CPU. Hope this all makes sense to you...

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hye, cand find my chipset :s unless its american migrates or something.. that link at the top shows the system information of my pc which says about american migrates.. i looked on the m/b but cant find nethin

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The American Megatrends is the BIOS manufacturer. If the BIOS boot screen shows up at the beginning of the boot sequence you can write down the long number at the bottom left of the screen. (Packard Bell may hide the boot screen with their logo.) It will appear when the computer FIRST begins to boot. It ~should~ show a long number that represents the motherboard. You can then use bits of that number as a search at Google or Yahoo. I don't want to misslead you. This all may be to no avail. You may try contacting Packard Bell and finding out what CPU upgrades are available, and buy a faster CPU that runs on a 133mhz FSB. You could get a used one on Ebay or a reputable local used computer shop. Email me if you have more questions: jess@gci.net

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Here... these might help. I found a good link by typing "Packard Bell MOtherboard" into a Google Search... Packard Bell Motherboards: http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/pbmb2.htm How to identify your Motherboard: http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/pbmbid.htm Read away and enjoy!

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i cannot find nothin on there about my m/b. only thing i can find is this: http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/faq/plat.htm#master but has no info on my m/b

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Is this your PC? http://www.packardbell.co.uk/support/node485.asp If so... It looks like you have one of 3 motherboards: Tacoma 1.2a motherboard ATX formfactor with intel 440BX chipset 100MHz FSB Sub: Tacoma 1.2a Motherboard BIOS Setup **I don't know the manufacturer on this board** Saturn (Phoenix+) MS-6309 ATX form-factor motherboard Internal name: Saturn (MS-6309) Marketing name: Phoenix+ Type: ATX motherboard Manufacturer: MSI ****(Microstar Intl. www.msi.com.tw model MS-6309) Go here to download user manual: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/manual/mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=124&NAME=MS-6309 Phoenix motherboard Name: Phoenix (MS-6199VA) Type: ATX motherboard Manufacturer: MSI ****(Microstar Intl. www.msi.com.tw model MS-6199A) Go here to download user manual: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/manual/mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=276&NAME=MS-6199 If you can get those manuals you may be able to identify if you have one of the MSI boards. If you do then it is merely a matter of reading tha manual and finding out what the motherboard is capable of. If it is neither of those boards it is most likely that third unknown manufacturer's board. Keep me posted...

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Saturn (Phoenix+) MS-6309 ATX form-factor motherboard Internal name: Saturn (MS-6309) Marketing name: Phoenix+ Type: ATX motherboard Manufacturer: MSI ****(Microstar Intl. www.msi.com.tw model MS-6309) Go here to download user manual: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/manual/mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=124&NAME=MS-6309 I LOOKED AT THAT. DOWNLOADED THE PDF FILE. AND THE PICTURE OF THE M/B IS EXACTLY LIKE MINE. I READ THROUGH AND EVEN NOTICED MY M/B DOES SUPPORT WOL, WHICH HAS IMPRESSED ME. AS I HAVE A NIC WITH THAT FEATURE. SO THATS MY MB, CHEERS MATE! ALTHOUGHT AINT READ IT ALL YET SO AINT FOUND NETHIN ABOUT OVERCLOCKING.

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cant find anything about overclocking!! arghhhhhhhhh

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my bios: http://support.packardbell-europe.com/scripts/rdr.asp?page=/support/pri/item/item_instr_Saturn_bios.asp&menu=MySupport&cat=PRI&lang=1&

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Phew! See how fun this can be? This exemplifies the best reason to learn how to build your own system. So you know EXACTLY all the parts of your PC. We may have reached an endgame here. Looks like Packard Bell has locked out the overclocking options in the BIOS. Though, this does not surprise me. Good news is you can find out which other processor options might be available to you. And a HUGE plus is the fact that in the future you could swap out your motherboard with ease, and do some MAJOR upgrading. Your motherboard uses a standard ATX form factor used by virtually all motherboard manufacturers at this time. (But that would need to be another forum entry... lol) Well, sorry we could not reach the conclusion you were hoping for but I hope you learned a little along the way. (Someone out there that knows more than me is welcome to jump in if I missed anything.) Cheers! *clink*

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damn nothin i can do with jumpers? o well was worth a try. cheers for all ur time MootLogic, very much appreciated. :)

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No problem. When you're ready to do some upgrading, self-building, or just buy a pre-built, come back if you need help. :)

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i just thought. my bios is flash ungradable.. does that mean if i update it i could get the overlocking option?

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That's a tricky question. You ~might~ be able to flash the BIOS with a version downloaded from the MSI website for your motherboard. This ~might~ be a risk considering we don't know what alterations Packard Bell may have made to the motherboard; if any. And if you did the new MSI BIOS ~might~ give you the option to bump up the front side bus. (I have owned and configured a few MSI boards and typically they do offer you a bit of leeway with the FSB.) If you can determine that FOR SURE Packard Bell did NO modifications to the board, I would give it a shot. *** IF YOU CHOOSE THIS OPTION YOU TAKE RISK*** The risk, in my opinion, outways the slight benefit you may obtain from overclocking. A failed BIOS flash can be very deadly to an otherwise perfectly functioning computer. ie: if the BIOS upgrade fails, your computer won't boot up and you would have to buy a new BIOS ROM chip. ($25-$35usd) If it was me I would not take the chance. It sounds like you, much like myself, don't have money to toss around, and if your computer goes TU(Tits UP) yer screwed for awhile. Too many what ifs involved...

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BTW... You can tell it's been a real slow week at work when I have this kind of time during the day to hang out at computing.net. Thanks for letting me while away the hours. ;)

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hey, i wont bother then, i guess it works ok. there is program you can download 2 overclock it isnt there? but i think im kinda given up on the idea now. lol cheers for all ya time

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http://www.viatech.com/en/apollo/PRO133A.jsp thats my chipset. Flexible 66/100/133MHz Front Side Bus Settings Optimizes the performance of a complete range of Intel? Pentium? III, Intel? Celeron™ and VIA C3™ processors running at a variety of FSB speeds. is this a good chip?

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I don't know much about individual Chipsets, but VIA makes very decent chipsets. Keep in mind that the FSB is controlled in the BIOS and not in the VIA chipset. Even though the chipset may be capable of 133mhz, the motherboard manufacturer may lock the FSB to a max of 100mhz. (Only an example.)

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