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Overclocking: How helpful is it?

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Name: vvume
Date: January 25, 2006 at 13:40:15 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
OS: Win XP Pro/SP2
CPU/Ram: Athlon 64 3400+/754/2.4GH
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I excitedly bought a X2 4400+ with intentions of overclocking it. I was more than thrilled to see get it running at 2651MHz stable with just a 5% voltage increase and running memory async at DDR333 with HTT=241=>DDR400), all this for very modest temperatures (32-42C).

However that 450MHz increase in speed hasn't resulted in a markedly more responsive system. I find my desktop hard drive to be the limiting factor now. Moreover, applications (like firefox) seem to be doing stuff that is not cpu bound when launching and still take nearly the same time to fully load. True video encoding is definitely faster (which I usually leave to be done overnight so +/- 30mins doesn't make much of a difference), but my enthusiasm for overclocking has tempered now.

Is this typical of most overclocking experiences?


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Response Number 1
Name: vvume
Date: January 25, 2006 at 13:41:23 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
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I forgot to mention. I don't play games at all.


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: January 25, 2006 at 14:08:02 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
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It certainly would help if you posted your specs & current settings...it doesn't appear that you've overclocked "correctly".

You should lower the HTT multiplier from 5x to 4x...that will allow some breathing room to raise the CPU frequency. The HTT bus is designed to run at 1000MHz & doesn't like to be overclocked very much, so by lowering the multi to 4x, the CPU bus can be raised to at least 250MHz. If you have PC3200 (DDR400) RAM, you should be running it at 200MHz (at least)...there should be a BIOS setting for that, maybe a ratio or percentage?

Without knowing what board/chipset & RAM, that's not much more I can tell you....


Hellz Yea!


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Response Number 3
Name: vvume
Date: January 25, 2006 at 14:39:20 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
Reply: (edit)

chipset: K8T800 Pro
CPU: X2 4400+ 2.2GHz 1MB Cache*2
Mem: 4*512MB OCZ Premier DDR400 2.5-3-3-6-2T@DDR400

overclock parameters:
HTT: 241
Mult: 4x (964 < 1000)
CPU Voltage: 5%+ (roughly 1.41v)
Mem Divider: DDR333 - on overclock becomes DDR400 - my memory cannot be overclocked beyond 205, so I have to use a memory divider and Async overclocking.
Temps: 32C idle - 42C full load (after 1 hour)


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: January 25, 2006 at 15:03:20 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
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OK, I guess I was mistaken, it appears that your setup is correct. That being said, you wouldn't notice an appreciable performance difference doing normal tasks, but as you stated, "True video encoding is definitely faster", so your overclocking DID make a difference.

Hellz Yea!


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Response Number 5
Name: JoeMiddle
Date: January 25, 2006 at 19:54:42 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
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You're gonna notice it on processor heavy tasks, like encoding video. Mine is very noticeable!

You're not gonna see it in Outlook Express, or the internet.


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Response Number 6
Name: Galileo
Date: January 27, 2006 at 07:41:47 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking: How helpful is it?
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open up note pad and start typing really, really fast! you have to feel the over clock!


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