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Name: durutti
Date: January 8, 2004 at 16:23:13 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
OS: WIN 98
CPU/Ram: Celeron500
Comment:

I have a Celeron 500 on a Advance5-133E mobo can I do overclocking without frying it and how?
I am a total newbie in overclocking but not newbie in computers in general!
Please help.
And I would like to ask also another thing. In local markets Celerons 2.2 and 2.4 are cheaper than AMD XP 2.0. Which would you suggest?
I know AMD has more L2 cache but Celerons accept faster RAM if I am right..


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Response Number 1
Name: Real_Cool
Date: January 8, 2004 at 16:59:14 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
Reply: (edit)

Here is the motherboard BIOS specs.

http://www.qdi.nl/download/A5133E.htm

I've never known they made MB in Hong Kong. This is the first I heard.

There is no overclocking feature built-in. So, you cannot overclock your rig.

Both AMD and Intel are using similar DDR, or at least 95% of the boards from DDR200 to DDR400 (PC1600 to PC3200), so the RAM speed is essentially very close in between AMD and Celeron.

Based on how you raised the question, it does not matter which one is better. It is which one you like (price or speed). I don't know if you are looking at only the processor price comparison or the system price. At your current level of PC knowledge (depending on the level of your desire to learn), you'd better go for the lowest price.



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Response Number 2
Name: durutti
Date: January 8, 2004 at 17:37:20 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
Reply: (edit)

I start with the latter.
I mind for the best processor (combination of durability,stability and speed of course).
The 3 processors I mentioned have exactly the same price (60-70 euros).
Therefore I should choose the AMD XP for the better L2 cache since you are saying RAM is also DDR400?

The first question.
So even if I use one of the programs I have found or try to alter the settings in the BIOS setup page still nothing will happen?
How can I understand which Mobo is good for overclocking and which one isnt.



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Response Number 3
Name: Real_Cool
Date: January 8, 2004 at 19:09:45 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
Reply: (edit)

If you have been following this forum, you would have noticed that are only a few good overclocking motherboards.

For AMD, I could only recommend the Abit NF7.

For Intel, utlilizing the latest 800 mhz and dual channel, I also recommend Abit IS7 and IC7.

I like to mention Asus, but the board temp reporting has pissed me off lately.

If you go AMD XP, this board would not allow upgrade into A64 and Opteron families. The Intel Boards MIGHT fit the up coming Prescott.


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Response Number 4
Name: NinjaCow
Date: January 8, 2004 at 19:29:09 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
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The Celeron isn't even an option if you're a gamer or power user, those cpus are weak compared to the Athlons and even the new Applebred Durons outperform them consistently in benchmarks.

The best value processor at the moment is the Duron (Applebred) if you can pick one up, they come in 1.4,1.6 and 1.8Ghz. They're based on the Athlon Thoroughbred core minus some of it's L2 cache. It still has 128 L1 cache and a 64Kb L2 cache but the smaller cache isn't really something to be worried about due to AMD's architecture unlike Intel where the pipelines are longer and you can see this disadvantage in the benchmarks that compare the Celeron to a Duron (AppleBred).

Another thing is these new Durons are great for overclocking and since it doesn't have as much L2 cache it has a lot of headroom. I see that a lot of people are consistently reaching 2.0Ghz and more with stock cooling and standard vcore.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1927


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Response Number 5
Name: Real_Cool
Date: January 8, 2004 at 20:37:06 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
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Read the article carefully. It is so correct if you are buying a system from BestBuy or Samsclub. Yes, buy the AMD.

The picture changes quickly if you plan on building your low cost system. And, if you know your overclocking, you would have different approach in your board and processor selections.

There is much information to anything we do, from buying a car to buying a computer. The decision is yours.

However, if I go with AMD, there is no good reason for me to chose Duron over XP for a few dollars difference, let alone the 128k cache versus the 256 and 512.

This is an overclocking forum, nevertheless.


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Response Number 6
Name: durutti
Date: January 10, 2004 at 10:38:24 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
Reply: (edit)

I checked my motherboard manual and it says that by changing a jumper on it I can make it run at 100Mhz instead of the 66Mhz it is today. Do you think it can run with stability at 100Mhz or it will be fried?!!

Many thanks for your answers


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Response Number 7
Name: Real_Cool
Date: January 10, 2004 at 21:21:15 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
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http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=49&NoNav=NO&CorSpd=5762&SysBusSpd=ALL&MfgTech=ALL&step=ALL&cache=ALL&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections

Copy & paste the above link.

Yes, you could try but it would mean you are overclocking it to 757 Mhz. This is 150% overclocking all in one big step without vcore increase.

50% increase or overclock is considered excellent by many. If you think you could do it, go ahead. Not recommended.


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Response Number 8
Name: durutti
Date: January 11, 2004 at 12:47:27 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking Celeron 500
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http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=49&NoNav=NO&CorSpd=5762&SysBusSpd=ALL&MfgTech=ALL&step=ALL&cache=ALL&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections

Interesting page but I dont see any use.

By not recommended you mean that it wont run stable?


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