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Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600

Original Message
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 21, 2008 at 08:53:03 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
OS: Windows Vista
CPU/Ram: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2
Comment:
I have a question about overclocking an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 running at 2.4:

1. Will I see a noticeable increase in performance if I overclock it to 3.0?
2. Will the temperature increase too much?
3. Will I be required to buy additional cooling?
4. Last but not least, do I do this on the bios, and if so, how?

Thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: January 21, 2008 at 09:45:42 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. yes, in the BIOS. It would be helpful if you'd post the make/model of your board & RAM.

Since you have a 1066MHz FSB CPU, the RAM should be set to DDR533, regardless of the fact that you may have DDR667, DDR800 or faster RAM. The PCI-Express bus should be locked at 100MHz. All Spread Spectrum settings should be disabled. Increase CPU frequency from 266MHz to 333MHz.

Results? CPU at 3.0GHz @ 1333MHz FSB with RAM running in sync at DDR667 speed.


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Response Number 2
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 21, 2008 at 10:34:50 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Where can I find the make/model of my board and ram? So all I have to do is to increase CPU frequency from 266MHz to 333MHz?


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: January 21, 2008 at 10:42:37 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"So all I have to do is to increase CPU frequency from 266MHz to 333MHz?"

NO! You have to make all the other BIOS changes I listed or the system won't boot. If you don't know the make/model of your board or RAM, you shouldn't be messing with it.


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Response Number 4
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 21, 2008 at 10:50:35 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
hahaha my bad, thanks for the info. So you are recommending that I leave my PC alone?

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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: January 21, 2008 at 11:04:30 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
IMO, anyone that uses the term "my bad" shouldn't have anything to do with computers...lol

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Response Number 6
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 21, 2008 at 12:14:01 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
:O ... shall I look for the maker/model of my board/ram? Is this information critical?

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Response Number 7
Name: aCi11i3s
Date: January 21, 2008 at 17:36:41 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"Answer to please all"
The only reason I would suggest oc'ing your CPU is for enthusiast & benchmarking reasons. Most apps dont even utilize the Quads yet, and I have not seen much benefit from my OC'ing...esp w/gaming.

DigitalStorm thx,
CM Stacker 830
XP Pro sp2
nForce 680i SLI mobo
Kentsfield OC'd 3.33ghz, 2gb 8500
2 8800GTX'S
X-Fi Fatal1tySC
Tpwr1000wPS,
Samsung 244T


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: January 22, 2008 at 08:11:55 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
@ aCi11i3s,

Overclocking isn't always about maxing the CPU speed. The biggest performance gains for Intel systems come from running a faster FSB. Even if gustavito_86's CPU was reclocked to 6 x 400MHz (2.4GHz) rather than 9 x 266MHz (2.4GHz), he *should* have a more responsive system, plus he'd be able to take full advantage of his RAM (assuming he has DDR2-800). Of course, his motherboard/chipset would have to be capable of running the 400MHz bus speed (aka 1600MHz FSB).

AMD systems have no FSB so overclocking them is ALL about the CPU speed.

Looking at the specs to your DigitalStorm system, I see a lot of things I would have done differently.

1st of all, I feel SLi configs are a huge waste of money. Not only do you have to purchase 2 video cards, but you need a higher end PSU capable of handling them. Plus there will be additional energy costs associated with running 2 those cards & PSU. And what does all this added cost bring you? 10-20 more FPS's on games that are already running at 80FPS? Do you really think your eyes can distinguish between 80FPS & 100FPS? Benchmarks can, mere mortals cannot.

2nd, assuming SLI is ruled out, a board based on the Intel P35 chipset would be a better choice.

3rd, PC8500 RAM...why? It's been shown time & time again that best performance on Intel systems is had when the CPU & RAM run in sync. So to take full advantage of your PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) RAM, you'd have to jack the CPU freq up to 533MHz. AFAIK, that's not possible with ANY of the current motherboard chipsets, at least not without extreme cooling. And if you're running your CPU freq at one speed & your RAM freq at another, you're losing performance.

Then there's the X-Fi Fatal1ty soundcard. Granted, it's an excellent card, but given the quality of current onboard digital audio chipsets, was it really necessary? To me, that'd be something to buy later, after determining whether the onboard sound has adequate or not.

From reading your other postings, I realize that you like to spend your money...maybe it comes with your job? LOL! I like to spend my money too, but I like to get the most bang for my buck. That's why I'll NEVER "invest" in a new car, especially not a Chrysler! Actually, I used to own an 84 Daytona TurboZ...it was the 1st & last Chrysler product I will ever own.


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Response Number 9
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 22, 2008 at 16:31:28 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Using cpu-z I was able to find the following about my system:

board:
vendor Intel Corporation
model OEMD975XBGG1
revision AAD59331-206
chipset Xi975X

ram:


DIMM #1

Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Samsung
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)

DIMM #2

Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Nanya Technology
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)

DIMM #3

Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Samsung
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)

DIMM #4

Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Nanya Technology
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)

Let me know if I am missing any information.


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Response Number 10
Name: aCi11i3s
Date: January 22, 2008 at 18:34:18 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Not sure what all those paragraphs are about jam...not going to read them, but I'm glad I have made such an impact on your life...LOL

DigitalStorm thx,
CM Stacker 830
XP Pro sp2
nForce 680i SLI mobo
Kentsfield OC'd 3.33ghz, 2gb 8500
2 8800GTX'S
X-Fi Fatal1tySC
Tpwr1000wPS,
Samsung 244T


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Response Number 11
Name: jam
Date: January 23, 2008 at 14:57:19 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Afraid you might learn something?

You must be a democrat because your usual answer to fixing things is to throw more money at it!


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: January 23, 2008 at 15:04:18 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"Using cpu-z I was able to find the following about my system:

board:
vendor Intel Corporation
model OEMD975XBGG1"

Do you have a Gateway computer?? If so, you should have mentioned right from the start. OEM motherboards generally are NOT overclockable.


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Response Number 13
Name: Cobra_R
Date: January 24, 2008 at 04:20:04 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"You must be a democrat because your usual answer to fixing things is to throw more money at it!"

HA! If I had a dime for every time I heard that phrase being used during an election year, i'd could go on a very nice vacation. Or get a lot of 400 dollar hair cuts. :)


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Response Number 14
Name: gustavito_86
Date: January 24, 2008 at 08:22:35 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"Do you have a Gateway computer?? If so, you should have mentioned right from the start. OEM motherboards generally are NOT overclockable."

Yes, I have a Gateway computer. How do I know if my motherboard is overclockable?


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Response Number 15
Name: rhawk7938
Date: January 24, 2008 at 09:17:51 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"You must be a democrat because your usual answer to fixing things is to throw more money at it!"

Apparently you don't perceive the current Republican administration's increased three trillion dollar debt as "spending".

You might want to check the facts, unless you're afraid you might learn something:

http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/N...


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Response Number 16
Name: Cobra_R
Date: January 24, 2008 at 11:09:36 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
If it's an FX series there is a few basic settings that allows you to overclock your processor, but nothing indepth, it's more on the lines of an auto overclocking feature.

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Response Number 17
Name: vande
Date: January 24, 2008 at 12:16:05 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
So i got a computer from Dell inspiron 520 with q6600 quad processor your saying there might not be a way to OC the processor. I mean when i get home im gonna check in my
BIOS but not if you tell me there is no way :) ALso does OC'ing void the warranty? And can Dell find out if i put it back to normal before service?

Got my associates in network administration
that doesn't say much for me :


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Response Number 18
Name: jam
Date: January 24, 2008 at 15:15:43 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Generally speaking, OEM systems (Dell, Gateway, eMachines, HP/Compaq, etc) use a "crippled" BIOS that prevents too much user tampering. The only way to overclock them is by using overclocking software such as ClockGen, CPUFSB, SoftFSB & a few others. Even so, this software approach doesn't have anywhere near the necessary options a true overclockable BIOS has, so the results are limited.

Besides, isn't the Dell inspiron 520 a laptop?



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Response Number 19
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: January 26, 2008 at 12:10:15 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Gustavito
This Post purely for information.
maybe upgrading the cpu is the key here :?

Some more information regarding OC the fx530 OEMD975XBGG1 (theres a few variations apparently)
& im probably opening a can of worms here, ...


assuming its a gateway FX530XT OEMD975XBGG1 & not one someones tinkered about with the FX530 should have an Extreme edition processor which apparently is unlocked. So this info pertains to that core only.
(The Q6600 is locked so this is irrelevant) any way...
##################################################
DISCLAIMER: AT YOUR OWN RISK.

From the ?ateway manual...
Overclocking the Processor Extreme Edition QX6700.
If your computer comes with an Extreme Edition CPU, the CPU is unlocked which means its clock speed can be increased (blah etc etc)
To change the clock speed of your processor.
Turn off your computer and disconect the power cord.
place your system on its side with the side access panel facing up.
Follow antistatic precautions.

heres the bit your looking for....

On the motherboard, locate jumper "J3C2 bios config"
remove the jumper bridging pins 1+2 and bridge pins 2+3 ,maintenance position.
reconect power and boot, bios should appear.
Select "Performance tab"
Select "Set processor Multiplier"
use +/- keys to adjust, (your choice your risk)
F10 & Y (exit accept changes to bios)

REINSTALL J3C2 JUMPER TO NORMAL MODE.
Turn off computer. (hmmm ppl may comment further hey i didnt write the manual!)
close the case
reconnect the power cord.

Turn the computer on If the jumper is in the correct position and the multiplier is low enough, your computer should start normally.
#######################################

well id leave well alone myself thats an expensive pc to wreck.


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Response Number 20
Name: Kay Tee Pren Tiss
Date: January 26, 2008 at 21:58:49 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Dear gustavito_86,

Some of the people here are being rude and lame lol! Let me help you out here.

I overclocked MY Quad Core AND have No Issues!!!!!

I still feel though that I have an unstable system :( Everytime I restart, my system always turns off and then on, IDK why.

Well, I am not sure how to on your system, since Mine is an ASUS P5B-E Motherboard and yours a Gateway.

Anyways, here is what you need to do if you want to overclock your Quad Core Q6600. I am new to overclocking myself haha! Well, I would first, restart your computer and then go into your BIOS. Then search for Northbridge Controller Chipset, then Change from 266 to 333, lock the PCI Express and then Disable any SpeedStep Spreading. If you cannot find it in your BIOS, then you will need to research how to Overclock Gateway Motherboards, or try to search for the jumpers in the motherboard, or IDK, contact Gateway or something.

Well, I hope my answers help. Computing.net could have people that can fuss before truely answering your question. IDK why, just don't fall for any of that.

Kute Punk Kay Pee Kay Tee Pren Tiss Kute Punk Kay Pee Kay Tee Pren Tiss


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Response Number 21
Name: jam
Date: January 31, 2008 at 08:59:14 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
"I overclocked MY Quad Core AND have No Issues!!!!!"

Maybe so, but you don't have a Gateway.

"If you cannot find it in your BIOS, then you will need to research how to Overclock Gateway Motherboards, or try to search for the jumpers in the motherboard, or IDK, contact Gateway or something."

Yeah, I'm sure the people at Gateway will be very helpful & will tell you exactly how to overclock & void your warranty...lol

"Computing.net could have people that can fuss before truely answering your question. IDK why, just don't fall for any of that"

And some people should just stick to asking questions, not answering them.


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Response Number 22
Name: vande
Date: February 5, 2008 at 10:27:35 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
So what is the advantage over the disadvantage from oc'ing from a software perspective? They should have some bios verions that you can flash with that wipes the manufactures and lets you implement your own :) Anything like that

Learning in progress..........


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Response Number 23
Name: Lysimakus
Date: March 26, 2008 at 14:20:36 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
I overclocked my FX530B Duo CPU by trial and error. I did notice some improvement, but not like that found with the AMD systems I've built. I managed to OC it until it locked and wouldn't boot. Had to remove the CMOS, put in a penny for a few hours until the CMOS was completely cleared, clear the BIOS, and now it's been running in stock mode. I have another new er one here with the Quad6600. If I have time, I'll try it as well. IMHO, it's not worth the effort.

Lysimakus


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Response Number 24
Name: mstein
Date: March 29, 2008 at 22:37:09 Pacific
Subject: Overclocking a Quad Q6600
Reply: (edit)
Found this whilst looking for ways to OC my FX530QS. It seems only the XT and XL models enable the OC menu in the bios. So I'm wondering how you got to it on your FX530S?

The only likely menu is the memory settings but I can only adjust the memory timings not the FSB or core voltage...

Is there anyway to fool the bios into thinking it's an XT or XL...? OR maybe some key combination to enable the engineering bios menu? I know my Q6600 isn't unlocked but I can still OC the FSB somewhat like you can on the newer Dell XPS 630

~ Steph


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