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Overclock Duron 1.2 (wont reboot)

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Name: RockyBalboa
Date: January 8, 2005 at 17:28:13 Pacific
OS: XP Pro Corp SP2
CPU/Ram: KT4AV-L 2800+ 512 DDR 333
Comment:

Got this on an Asus A7V8X-X its currently at 166x7 running 1x 256mb stick of PC3200 Kingston value ram, its running stable but i cant reboot my machine, all that happens is windows will shutdown properly then the pc will just stay on and the monitor light goes amber and i have to physically turn the pc off and on, i can however shut down and then turn it back on fine its just when i try to reboot it wont. any tips guys? also how far should i push this duron??

Thanks in advance

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Response Number 1
Name: Cobra_R
Date: January 9, 2005 at 14:13:51 Pacific
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So this happened after you overclocked it? If it did you might have caused damage to something due to something not being done right while you were overclcoking it.

Did you try putting all your settings in you bios on defualt to see if it will reboot? If it does then a setting just might be off that you have to adjust, if it doesn't then my guess is you damaged something.


That is why I hardly ever overclock unless I have no other otpion to because when overclocking you have to be almost dead on at what you are doing or else you could damage something. And even if you know what you are doing you still have to check on your system to from time to time just to make sure everything is ok, because you can overclock something now and 2 weeks later your system could die for no reason.



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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: January 9, 2005 at 16:04:59 Pacific
Reply:

Oh boy - the evils of overclocking again...lol!

7 x 166.66 = 1167, so although you've reclocked your Duron, you're actually running it under it's rated speed. Did you have to unlock it or did it come factory unlocked? Are you running at 1.75v or higher?

I kinda doubt that your problem is related to the overclock. Did you try running at the default speed to see if it "fixes" things?


Asus A7N8X-X
2500+ Sempron @ 2100mhz
10.5 x 200mhz @ 1.80v
512mb PC3200
Ti4200/8X 128mb
WDC 60GB


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Response Number 3
Name: Cobra_R
Date: January 9, 2005 at 17:01:11 Pacific
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I'm not saying overclocking is evil, i'm saying that you got to know what you are doing. Besides that overclocking is only as good as your motherboard, processor and ram etc.. that can handle it.

If processor companies thought overclocking was ok then they would have came out with a suitable overclocking processor the can range from diff speeds of mhz. and gurantee make it stablity at the same time, but they don't and there are many reason why they don't and not because of money a lone. The only main stream hardware companies that do such a thing is ram and motherboard companies mostly, but even they claim "overclcok at your own risk." even with boards and rams suitable to overclock.


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Response Number 4
Name: RockyBalboa
Date: January 10, 2005 at 03:07:29 Pacific
Reply:

i dropped the FSB to 133 and the multi to 9 and its rebooting ok now, ive not altered the vcore at all, i ran prime for a few hours and it was fine, i might just keep it like this from now on

Q-TEC 550 Watt PSU
MSI VIA KT4AV-L
2800+ Barton 512 DDR333
GeForce4 Ti 4200 128Mb
Aero 7 Lite
80Gb Samsung ATA133 HDD
120Gb WD ATA100 HDD
LiteOn LDW-851S
LiteOn LTR-52246S


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Response Number 5
Name: RockyBalboa
Date: January 10, 2005 at 03:09:51 Pacific
Reply:

forgot to add, i unlocked it myself (pencil trick)

Q-TEC 550 Watt PSU
MSI VIA KT4AV-L
2800+ Barton 512 DDR333
GeForce4 Ti 4200 128Mb
Aero 7 Lite
80Gb Samsung ATA133 HDD
120Gb WD ATA100 HDD
LiteOn LDW-851S
LiteOn LTR-52246S


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: January 10, 2005 at 05:31:43 Pacific
Reply:

"overclocking is only as good as your motherboard, processor and ram etc"

Exactly! And an experienced overclocker will buy components based on that!

"If processor companies thought overclocking was ok then they would have came out with a suitable overclocking processor the can range from diff speeds of mhz"

They did - it's called the Athlon XP - mobile...lol! Seriously, there is no such thing as an "overclocking processor" & there never will be. The only way it could be accomplished would be to take a CPU that's rated at a high speed, unlock the multiplier & sell it as a CPU at lower speed. But technically, it wouldn't be overclocking at all, because the CPU would actually be rated for that speed anyway.

Here's something to think about. Do you think AMD actually produces 6 differnt versions of the Athlon XP/Barton? Do you think there are actually 6 separate production lines producing 6 different wafers? From a profit standpoint, wouldn't it make more sense to produce a single Barton wafer at a single production line, & then just alter the default clock settings & lock the multiplier? The only difference between a 2500+ Barton & a 3200+ Barton is the default FSB...they both have the same multiplier (11.0x). Many people have found that a 2500+ will run as a 3200+ simply by raising the FSB from 166mhz to 200mhz...in most cases, no other change was necessary, in other cases, a voltage increase was necessary. But the number of success stories seem to confirm that AMD produces only one single Barton wafer & all CPUs are cut from it.

As for "overclocking RAM", that's just a sham to get more money. If you wanna take RAM outta the picture when overclocking your CPU, you just buy PC3700 or PC4000. And RAM heatsinks are unnecessary as well.


Asus A7N8X-X
2500+ Sempron @ 2100mhz
10.5 x 200mhz @ 1.80v
512mb PC3200
Ti4200/8X 128mb
WDC 60GB


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Response Number 7
Name: Wizzkid007
Date: January 30, 2005 at 07:51:01 Pacific
Reply:

I have 2 A7V8X-X mobos here, both AMD 2000+ CPU, tried different memory configurations.

normal settings:
FSB: 133Mhz
Multiplier: 12,5

My Overclocked settings:
FSB: 166Mhz
Multiplier: 10,0

Effective CPU speed is kept the same this way, but memory access is increased by 25%!!!

The only downside is that it also won't reboot. Same thing, windows shut down, gives reboot command to BIOS, monitor goes stand-by, HD LED turns on, and stays that way.


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