Wussup guys I just wanted to get opinion on some parts. I wanted to make an amd system. My main reason to make an amd system is because its dirt cheap. I was looking a ASRock ALiveNF6P-VSTA from newegg a openbox for $25! and also I saw the BIOSTAR TForce TF8200 A2+ . Plus I see that has a pcie 2.0 which my card supports but does it make a big difference from regular pcie 1.0? I like the biostarit is very expandable. I already have in my arsenal a 9600 gso evga card that I got for $50, patriot 9200-1066fsb ram ($35 ebay lol seller sent wrong ram), and antec case nsk4480+380earthwatts ($25 bestbuy). I just need to buy my cpu, board, and hdd. I was thinking I need to buy a am2+ board so I can later on buy a phenom cpu which i don't want to buy now since its out of my budget. I use to have a athlon64 le1600 with a evga 8600gt 256mb with a tforce board 7050 geforce which was mindblowing to me but now that system my dad has at his home. I have been slowly been buying my parts so I can get the cheapest s--- since I am not in a rush. You can see the above parts I already bought area already better then the ones I had. I have been just debating on which cpu. Which dual core? Which is best bang for ur buck? I see the nvidia chipset for motherboard is way better in performance. I am scaried of Amd chipsets as I heard they are a little troubelsome. I am also looking to go green parts like 45 watts cpu from amd look very good. And I am planning to buy a green western digital hdd but speed is a factor to me so is better to get a regular hdd? I am looking for cheap stuff and reliable. I am not intending to overclock. But just something good. also is it true phenom cpu only runs on actual 200 fsb?

"also is it true phenom cpu only runs on actual 200 fsb?" AMD systems haven't used a FSB for many years. The frequency on all AMD CPU's is 200MHz but the HyperTransport bus (which is what replaces the outdated FSB) either runs at 2600MHz (5200 MT/s) on AM2+ boards or 1000MHz (2000 MT/s) on AM2 boards. And just so you know, dual core CPUs don't support DDR2-1066 RAM, they will automatically downclock it to DDR2-800 speed. You need a Phenom (or X3) to be able to take full adavantage of DDR2-1066 RAM. "I see the nvidia chipset for motherboard is way better in performance" Since there's no FSB, there's not a huge performance difference between chipsets. I suggest you avoid SiS & VIA based motherboards, but AMD/ATI & nVidia based boards are both a good choice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews... As for getting an "open box" board, it's always a bit of a risk. There's no guarantee that you'll get all the parts...the only part you are guaranteed to get is the board itself. You may not get the I/O shield, driver CD, manual, cables, etc, so keep that in mind. Plus there's a 30-day return policy on open box. Don't buy until you're ready to build. "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction