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Name: Skatan2323
Date: August 2, 2006 at 11:51:07 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
OS: Windows XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 1.6 OCed to 1.8/1 Gb
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I'm trying to oc my AMD Sempron 2800+ from 1.6 to 2.0ghz. I manage to get it 1.8 (225mhz) but whenever I try 2.0 (250mhz), the computer doesnt go to POST and I have to reset CMOS. I dont touch anything else in my bios besides that... Am I doing something wrong? My mobo is the MSI K8N Neo3.


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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: August 2, 2006 at 17:14:15 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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What speed RAM are you running? I'm guessing PC3200 (DDR400). You should lower the RAM speed to 166MHz (DDR333), then when you increase the CPU frequency to 250MHz, the RAM will run at 208MHz.

You may also need to increase the CPU voltage (vcore) slightly. Make sure to lock the PCI-E setting at 100MHz & if there are any Spread Spectrum settings, make sure to disable them.

One other thing...if there's an HTT multiplier setting, temporarily lower it to 3X. If the HTT settings are in MHz, lower it to 600MHz. By doing this, the HTT bus will increase to 750MHz when the CPU freq is set to 250MHz. The 2800+ Sempron is an 800MHz HTT CPU, so 750MHz is good. If all the above settings work out for you, THEN you can try the HTT multi at 4X (or 800MHz). At the 4X setting & with the CPU freq at 250MHz, the HTT bus will run at 1000MHz.


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Response Number 2
Name: Skatan2323
Date: August 2, 2006 at 20:28:03 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
Reply: (edit)

Ok tried what you said...no good. No POST again. It wont let me lower the CPU voltage, no option for it. And underneath the HTT there was HTT height...if thats anything. I'm so confused, why could be holding me back.


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: August 2, 2006 at 21:30:01 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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"It wont let me lower the CPU voltage"

I didn't tell you to lower it...I told you to raise (increase) it!

Try thes BIOS settings:

Go to ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:

DRAM Configuration - Press ENTER to bring up the memory options:

Timing Mode = manual
Memclock index value (Mhz) = 166**

** try it at 166MHz with the CPU freq at 250MHz. After you'd made all the changes, save your settings & reboot, get right back into the BIOS again & look at the CELL MENU. See what is listed for "Current DDR Clock"...if it says 208MHz, you're good. If it says 166MHz, go back to "Memclock index value" & change it to 200MHz.

User Config mode = manual
1T/ 2T Memory Timing = 2T***

*** 2T is slower but more stable. Leave it set at 2T for the time being & focus on all the rest of the settings. Once you get everything running the way you want it, drop back to this setting & try it at 1T...but if your system becomes unstable, change it back to 2T.

Go to the CELL MENU:

High Performance Mode = manual
Aggressive timing = disabled
Dynamic Overclocking = disabled
Adjust CPU FSB Freq = 250
HT Freq = 3x
HT width = down 16 up 16
CPU Spread Spectrum = disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = disabled
PCIE Clock = 100MHz
Cool ’n’ Quiet = disabled
Adjust CPU Ratio = startup (or x8)
Adjust CPU VID = 1.40v****

**** default voltage for your CPU is 1.40v. Overclocking sometimes requires a voltage increase. Try it a 1.45v & see if that will allow you to boot with the overclock settings...if it doesn't, try it again at 1.50v. Try to find the lowest voltage that will allow the system to run stably. It may be 1.425v or 1.475v, possibly even 1.525v. You'll have to experiment. Keep an eye on your CPU temperature.


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Response Number 4
Name: Skatan2323
Date: August 2, 2006 at 21:36:09 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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Adjust CPU Ratio = startup (or x8)
Adjust CPU VID = 1.40v****
I dont see that option man...
Sorry I meant raise


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: August 2, 2006 at 21:55:56 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
Reply: (edit)

Look at page 3-25 of your manual


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Response Number 6
Name: Skatan2323
Date: August 2, 2006 at 22:02:31 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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Sorry but for what? Its not in my BIOS screen. It doesnt show as an option


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: August 3, 2006 at 14:33:34 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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Well, is it shown in your manual on page 3-25??

Did you do this?

"High Performance Mode = manual
Aggressive timing = disabled
Dynamic Overclocking = disabled"


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: August 3, 2006 at 14:34:59 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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BTW, are you running BIOS version 1.7?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=642&kind=1


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Response Number 9
Name: Skatan2323
Date: August 3, 2006 at 14:59:39 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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Um I updated like a few days ago thinking it would show up for me but nothing, and yeah im pretty sure its set like that man.


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Response Number 10
Name: GX1 Man
Date: August 3, 2006 at 19:31:35 Pacific
Subject: Ocing CPU
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"Um I updated like a few days ago thinking it would show up for me but nothing, and yeah im pretty sure its set like that man."

With your stringest testing methods as above you should not even be attempting this.


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