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It's got to be something in your bios that you have not set correctly? I'm sure your cpu and ram will do a higher fsb. In my nf7-s there is a 'cpu interface' option that needed to be 'enabled' for me to get passed what was holding me back.Also the 4pin 12v connector really made a difference for getting a higher stable oc on my board. I'm sure you have got all the jumpers set correctly. I'm also pretty sure you don't need to do a wire mod trick. Tt Lanfire nf7-s v2.0 XP-m 2500@209x11 SP 97 512mb pc3200 Jou Jye 550w psu FX5600 WDCaviar 160gb sata WDCaviar 160gb sata ;~}

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I guess what I mentioned about changing the default FSB IS the L12 wire mod. Here's a couple of clips that pretty much explain what the L12 mod does & why it's necessary: "what the L-12 mod does is set the memory controller in the northbridge to default to timings for 200mhz FSB. You only need to do this because mobiles are default 133mhz FSB" "...some registers in the chipset are loaded up before the BIOS can get up and running. Those registers can't be changed once they're loaded." "If the bridges indicate that the chip is a 100/133Mhz part, then those registers are loaded with timing values suitable for 100/133Mhz operation. The same happens with 166Mhz. However, when you go and set the FSB to be 200MHz in the BIOS, it's still using those register settings optimised for slower FSB speeds. The net result is lower overclockability." "Doing the L12 mod means that the chipset registers assume the part is a 200MHz part, and load up the 200MHz timings, giving you a better starting point for your overclock." OK, so assuming the above is correct, all you'll need to do is find out which pin holes in the CPU socket need to be jumpered with a wire. Start by going to AMD.com & downloading the Tech Doc for the Athlon XP Model 10 (right click & select "save as"). http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_3748,00.html Once you've got it, go to the section called "pin descriptions" & you'll find two views of the pin layout...one will be called "Topside View" & the other "Bottomside View". Print out the Topside View...that is the CPU socket. It'll be much easier to reference the pin locations this way because the columns are labelled 1, 2, 3, etc along one side, & A, B, C, etc along the other. The pins are also labelled. For example, the FSB0 pin is located at AG31 (kinda like that old game, "Battleship"...lol) There's also detailed descpritions of the individual pins. The ones you'll be working with are the FSB_Sense Pins. There's a table along with them called the "Front Side Bus Sense Truth Table". Print that out as well. You'll see that at 133MHz FSB, FSB_Sense[1] & FSB_Sense[0] are set at 1. At 200MHz FSB, both are set at zero. So to change your CPU to default to 200MHz FSB instead of 133MHz, you'll have to change both of those 1's to 0's. If the pin is connected to a Vcc pin, you'll get a value of 1. If a pin is connected to a Vss pin, you'll get a value of 0. So in your case, you'll have to jumper both FSB0 & FSB1 to the nearest VSS pin. Hopefully that makes sense. Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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Jam, I think you're on to something. That makes a whole lot of sense to me. I'll let ya'll know if it works out to your way of thinking. FSB is the way to go. More performance. I'm glad I didn't burn you out on this subject. lol! Now to make things even more confusing, I here that there are some custom bios's out there that allow you to achieve the same goal, but without having to do the wire mod thingy. I think they call it something like "soft bios" or "bios soft." Not sure if it works with an Asus board though. Has anyone ever heard of it? Will it work with an Asus? You got a link? YO

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I don't know if I'd recommend use a software program for your ASUS board...those programs are usually used for boards that don't allow FSB changes, or that only have settings like 133, 166, 200 & you wanna try to use something in between. I'd go with the wire mod. Personally, I took an old floppy cable that I had & removed one rib, then took one strand from the "rope wire" from inside the rib. Man, are they tiny! About the width of a hair, maybe even smaller. Some people do the same with a telepone cable, but I didn't have one that I was willing to sacrifice. When I did the voltage wire mod, I layed the case on it's side, held the U-shaped wire with a pair of tweezers, & had to use a small flashlight because my head kept blocking the light when I leaned over...lol. Be very careful that you don't drop the wire. I ended up doing it twice & those tiny ba$turds are hard to find again...plus hard to pick up once you find them! BTW, I've run across references to a "hacked" BIOS for our board, but never looked into it to see what it was about. Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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Jam, FINALLY SUCCESS!!! I found these links to Asus A7N8X-X 2/1010XMod bios's with some additional info. I'm currently using the ON mod. http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=351278 http://forums.pcper.com/showpost.php?p=3328666&postcount=5 And more mods (deluxe included). http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?p=2046478#post2046478 I can't believe this mystery is finally solved! Currently operating at: 210FSB X 11.5 = 2.415Ghz Vcore=1.80v in settings (but shows 1.87v on CPU-Z). Memory @1.8v (who knows what it is really running at? I don't really care! lol!). Current Temps: CPU @ 38C unloaded MB @ 26C unloaded Hey Jam, I know what you're thinking. Why don't I raise FSB and lower Multiplier. lol! Let me savor this moment for awhile and I will try. I did try 210X12 @ 210FSB with pretty much the same voltage settings, but when the boot up gets to the little blue deal going back and forth, that's all you get. I couldn't have worked this out without your support and everyone elses too. Thanks A Bunch!!! Now it's time to FOLD and see if it crashes. I will post back my FOLDING temps. BTW, FOLDING is much more picky about stability than prime95. The WU has to be precise data collected. If it ain't, it will crash. YO

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Was just gonna say Tic Tac's bios does it for us nf7 people(not tried it yet). Nice to hear you cracked it. Tt Lanfire nf7-s v2.0 XP-m 2500@209x11 SP 97 512mb pc3200 Jou Jye 550w psu FX5600 WDCaviar 160gb sata WDCaviar 160gb sata ;~}

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Nice find YO. Like I said, I had seen a hacked BIOS mentioned before. Out of curiousity, I checked the sites you posted, read em over & downloaded 1010-XMOD2.BIN, but my board wouldn't accept it. I may try formatting the floppy & downloading it again. Did you use the board's built-in flash utility or did you do it the "old fashioned" way with a separate flash utility on the floppy? I was wondering if it's because the BIOS name doesn't follow the DOS 8.3 naming convention, because when I typed in the name, it changed to 1010-X~1.BIN? or maybe it was just a bad download? I don't wanna trash my board...maybe I should just leave it be. Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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Jam, I used the asus update way. The one that's in your programs file (or should be). Don't enter in anything in the boxes. Just point it to the unzipped file that you want to use. Make sure you have a backup copy on a floppy of the original 1010 just in case. I'm still experimenting with the new bios. Lost my folding WU. lol! But I don't care. Currently running at: 215mhz FSB X 10.5 Multi = 2258mhz CPU speed 1.75v in bios settings but CPU-Z says 1.8v (which i'm sure is what bios says). What is it with the overvolting and asus? DDR @ 2.8V (and like I said before, who knows? I don't care!) And I think that it's a go ahead from FOLDING to move up to an 11 multiplier. Will keep you posted on my stopping point. Current temps while FOLDING: CPU 57C MB 29C Over and Out! lol! YO

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Jam, This just crossed my mind...maybe you have to have a mobile installed for it to work. YO

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Jam, When you get it right, your new bios will be version 1011. YO

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Jam, Correction! You will see version 1010 mod2 in your boot up screen and version 1011 in your Asus probe. Still fine tuning. Had a couple crashes. Hope it has nothing to do with the double sided memory problems mentioned in the links. I'm not sure if I am gaining very much from the higher FSB setting. My FOLDING seems slow to me. I wish there was a program say tells you exactly what the problem was when you crashed. Sure would make life alot easier. BIOS CPUZ Currently running at 215X11/vCore 1.77v/1.82 DDR 2.8v. Noticed theat there are several choices in the bios. One of them located between the AGP settings says CHIP voltage control. Ain't got a clue as to what its for. Hm! YO YO

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Are you running the BIOS with CPC on, or CPC off? From your link: "CPC is synonymous with "Command Rate". Nforce2 boards run at 1t command rate by default. this gives great performance, but can cause instability when trying to run a high FSB with two double sided (most 512) dimms. So if that is a problem, try the CPC off or "2t" bios. It will allow for a higher FSB at the cost of memory performance." I also did some searching & CPC is better defined as "Command Per Clock" http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/printthread.php?t=53763 Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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One more: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=104709&highlight=timings+bandwidth Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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Jam, This is why I'm not running the OFF method if possible. "It will allow for a higher FSB at the cost of memory performance." I don't want to lose anything. YO

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Jam, Also here is something else interesting. Before I installed the new bios, I noticed that after installing the new 3200 ram that CPU-Z says that it is running dual channel. But at boot up the bios says single. They need to make up their minds. lol! YO

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