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nforce worth it?

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Name: gorge
Date: August 22, 2002 at 19:07:22 Pacific
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is the nfroce chipset good.. does it worth it to buy a mobo with nfroce , if not .what chipset would you guys recommend?



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Response Number 1
Name: Death-Knight
Date: August 22, 2002 at 19:16:29 Pacific
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nFroce chip is a higher level of nVidia. I think that GeForce4 TI 4600 is good enough already.


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Response Number 2
Name: n3985
Date: August 22, 2002 at 19:50:26 Pacific
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a higher level? what???? nForce is "affordable" performance gfx "card", its onboard video, I would never buy a mobo with onboard video. you said chipset? what or actually which type do you mean? like system chipset?


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Response Number 3
Name: Death-Knight
Date: August 22, 2002 at 20:04:28 Pacific
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I said it wrong... i meant that GeForce is a higher level of nForce... my fualt...


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Response Number 4
Name: Froggx
Date: August 22, 2002 at 20:13:03 Pacific
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The nVidia nForce is a motherboard chipset made by nVidia for the Athlon line of processors, specifically the Athlon XP. The two big selling features are the dual-channel DDR memory support and the integrated Geforce 2 MX graphics. The integrated graphics are no good by today's standards, so that is no longer much of a selling point. The dual channel DDR support requires exactly two sticks of DDR RAM, and even then, a VIA KT266a chipset motherboard has better memory performance. Basically, it is not worth it as it is slower than the last generation VIA boards, and the integrated video is slow compared to today's new video cards, and made slower because it runs off of system memory.

On the other hand, nVidia will soon be releasing the nForce2 chipset. This chipset also supports dual channel memory, all this time it supports 400 Mhz DDR 3200 RAM instead of 266Mhz DDR 2100 RAM. This boost performance. Also, this time there is the option to get the board without integrated video, saving money. If you still want integrated video, you can get an integrated Geforce 4 mx, which really isn't all that good. It also comes with built in land and some special media processor or something that decodes 6 channel sound in hardware or something cool like that. It also comes with USB 2.0, and I think it might have Firewire support too, but I am not sure.

I would reccommend not buying a motherboard based on the original nForce as you can get a KT266a or KT333 by VIA in new mobos and get better performance. Also, if you do not mind waiting a while, you can get an nForce 2, which, if nVidia gets it right, will be superior to any other motherboard for the AMD platform running DDR 400.

And no, the nForce is NOT a graphics card, and even if it was, it would be a geforce 2 mx, which in no way can beat a ti4600. There is currently no nVidia card on the market that is more high-end than the GF4 ti4600. This excludes the professional cards, of course, but those really aren't any good for gaming, only CAD and things like that.


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Response Number 5
Name: n3985
Date: August 22, 2002 at 20:27:31 Pacific
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well, Froggx pretty much covered it, good job


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Response Number 6
Name: gorge
Date: August 22, 2002 at 20:56:15 Pacific
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thanks.. froggx.but now im a little sad becuse i own and msi k7n420 pro .. with and xp2100.. also i have samsung ddr 2700 ,so that means im not taking advantege of my ddr memory? i mean the (2700) even though i dont know , what that stands for! any help would be apreciated


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Response Number 7
Name: Death-Knight
Date: August 22, 2002 at 21:25:22 Pacific
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Correction for Froggx, GeForce4 TI4600 is not the best right now. ATi Takes Over 3D Technology Leadership With Radeon 9700

http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q3/020718/index.html



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Response Number 8
Name: Greg
Date: August 23, 2002 at 04:56:38 Pacific
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DDR 2700
64 bit memory x 333 MHz / 8 bits per byte = 2664. Round up to 2700.

same formula for others, just use correct speed (i.e. 200 MHz, 266 Mhz.)

aka theoretical throughput or just another branding scheme to confuse non-professionals :)

PC66, PC100, PC133 were clocks speed brandings.

guess what, with rambus they went back to speed branding.

It's a conspiracy I tell ya :)


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Response Number 9
Name: XxxFrancisxxxUSA
Date: August 23, 2002 at 06:09:28 Pacific
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Ok, lmao. ATI. Mmm. Well, ATI sell their cards moslty on the "great multimedia uses" basis. Video capturing and tv reciever.

Might be great graphics board even the fastest, but the games are written with the Geforce chipset in mind, as it is the most popular type of GPU the same way that when Voodoo chipset was top dog, most games were 3DFX enhanced.

Buy a Geforce card. NVidia are the top dawg for games GPU's.


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Response Number 10
Name: n3985
Date: August 23, 2002 at 07:33:57 Pacific
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not top dawg anymore, in all the benchmarks, the new Radeon 9700Pro smacked the Geforce4 around, read it at tomshardware.com


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Response Number 11
Name: Death-Knight
Date: August 23, 2002 at 09:30:20 Pacific
Reply:

Yup that's what i told them.


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Response Number 12
Name: Froggx
Date: August 25, 2002 at 08:40:15 Pacific
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Death-Knight, there was no need to correct me. This is a direct quote from my earlier response: "There is currently no nVidia card on the market that is more high-end than the GF4 ti4600." As you can see I stated that the ti4600 was the best nVidia card. NOT the best card overall. Also, unless you can prove me otherwise, the Geforce 4 ti4600 IS the best card right now. Excluding professional, once again. I agree that the 9700 PRO is much faster, but point me in the direction of one place where I can buy it, and I will say it is the fastest. Keyword "BUY", not pre-order, pre-buy or anything like that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I won't be able to grab a radeon 9700 pro until September whereas I could drive to Best Buy and get a ti4600 today. So, through a loophole, the ti4600 IS the best NOW. In a month, I agree, that will change.


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Response Number 13
Name: Alexander
Date: September 30, 2002 at 15:35:37 Pacific
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Just a bit of feedback, I have found excellent performance from an nForce 420D ASUS motherboard using a twinbank memory config.

When you disable the onboard graphics card when you're ready to upgrade, you have a motherboard which has a higher memory bandwidth and excellent throughput between North and South bridge.

Just my imho ofc, but I've been VERY pleased.


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