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Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 27, 2009 at 16:02:06 Pacific
OS: Windows Vista Home Basic
Product: Emachince / T
Subcategory: AMD
Comment:

I am trying to upgrade my processor, I was told it will help speed up my computer, so if anyone could tell me what would be compatible with an AMD athlon LE-1600 2.2Ghz. or where I can find a site that I can find one that is of the same type, with a little better qualities that would be greatly appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: May 27, 2009 at 17:44:29 Pacific
Reply:

The A64 LE-1600 may not be a dual core CPU, but it's hardly slow. Installing a CPU that's clocked a few 100MHz higher won't make a significant difference. A dual core will only make a difference if you run programs that are coded for multi-core CPUs or if you do a lot of multitasking. What about memory? If you don't have at least 2GB RAM, you may get better performance by adding more. And if you're still using the onboard video, you may wanna consider adding a *real* video card.


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Response Number 2
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 27, 2009 at 18:57:09 Pacific
Reply:

I currently have 1GB of ram, and am working on getting another one. Apparently my computer can only handle 2GB so that is what I am gonna do. But would doubling the ram speed it up that significantly? I am just trying to figure out all possible angles. Also can I mix and match? I have 2 slots for ram, and I know the details of what kind of stick I need, so can I add any one that matchs my details and have them work together?


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: May 27, 2009 at 19:15:45 Pacific
Reply:

It would help to know the model number of your eMachines, but you *should* be running DDR2-800. DDR2-667 or DDR2-533 will bottleneck the system, DDR2-1066 would be a waste because the system would automatically clock it down to DDR2-800. And to enable dual channel mode, you will need a matched pair. If it were my system, I'd install 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800.

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Response Number 4
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 27, 2009 at 19:50:42 Pacific
Reply:

I spoke to the eMachines customer support, and they said I am unable to run it with 2x2GB, it tops out at 2x1GB. It is an eMachines ET1600-05. And from my understand (I am kind of new at this, obviously) i need a 184-pin DIMM DDR PC2700, non-ECC, unbuffered. But I already have a 1GB one installed, and I just want another one, as there is an empty slot next to it. So are you saying I am going to need to install a double set, in order to get the best possible outcome? I would prefer to just buy one unless it is necassary to get the double pack.


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: May 27, 2009 at 20:27:15 Pacific
Reply:

Calling eMachines support isn't helping matters, it only helped to muddy the water. You have to understand that these people generally are not "techs". I can't find a ET1600-05 at the eMachines site nor does it come up when doing a google search, so I can only assume that's the wrong model number. My guess is it's an ET1160-05. But there are two things I know for sure:

1. the A64 LE-1600 is a socket AM2 CPU.
2. socket AM2 motherboards supports 240-pin DDR2, not 184-pin DDR1.

So if eMachines support said that you need PC2700 RAM, they are totally incorrect.

You said you have 1GB RAM installed. That's really not very much these days, especially for Vista. And assuming you don't have an actual video card, a portion of that 1GB is being used by the onboard video. That means that Vista is actually operating with less than 1GB...my guess would be either 768MB or 896MB, depending on the graphics setting.

Check the model number of your eMachines again & post back. Could it be this one?



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Response Number 6
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 27, 2009 at 20:31:44 Pacific
Reply:

Yes you are totally right it is the eMachines ET1160-05. I am just trying to upgrade my ram as cheaply and efficiently as possible thank you much for all your time and help.


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: May 27, 2009 at 21:23:40 Pacific
Reply:

If you want to get off as cheaply as possible, just get another stick of RAM to match what you have...even if it's the wrong stuff. By that I mean anything other than DDR2-800. I'm guessing that you have DDR2-667. It would be best to find RAM that runs at the same voltage & has the same timings.

To help determine what you have, download & run CPUZ. Click on the SPD tab to find your RAM info.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php


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Response Number 8
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 27, 2009 at 23:34:58 Pacific
Reply:

Alright I did exactly as you described, and it is telling me that it's a PC2-6400 (400Mhz), but I suppose if it is possible, I would just buy a dual pack if the 400 can be bumped up to 677 or 800 even.


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Response Number 9
Name: SkipCox
Date: May 28, 2009 at 02:24:46 Pacific
Reply:

PC2-6400 is DDR2-800. Just buy another 1Gb stick.

"It would be best to find RAM that runs at the same voltage & has the same timings."

Yep. You might look at the stick you have now to see if it's labeled with a part number.

Skip


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Response Number 10
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: May 28, 2009 at 06:34:49 Pacific
Reply:

So a DDR2-800 is compatible, and the same? Because I assumed that the 800 stood for mhz, therefore doubling the one I currently have. But if that is what I need I could just as easily buy a double back guaranteeing they are compatible together. JUst trying to find the exact match for my computer.


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Response Number 11
Name: jam
Date: May 28, 2009 at 08:05:34 Pacific
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The DDR speed rating is theoretical based on DDR (double data rate) technology. The true speed (aka frequency) is always 1/2 of the advertised/theoretical DDR speed. Here's how it breaks down:

PC2-4300 = DDR2-533 = 266MHz freq
PC2-5300 = DDR2-667 = 333MHz freq
PC2-6400 = DDR2-800 = 400MHz freq
PC2-8500 = DDR2-1066 = 533MHz freq


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Response Number 12
Name: jimmy_karlbird
Date: July 29, 2009 at 17:58:08 Pacific
Reply:

So I am still at it trying to find a better quality, and faster CPU. I have upgraded my memory and video card, and am having a helluva time trying to figure out what kind of CPU I can use with this computer. If anyone could help me that would be greatly appreciated.


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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: July 29, 2009 at 20:02:46 Pacific

Response Number 14
Name: Cobra_R
Date: July 29, 2009 at 22:01:29 Pacific
Reply:

You are better off just getting a new motherboard with a cpu. Any MicroATX will fit in that case. That budget board is going to hold you back from future upgrades 2gb of ram won't cut it if you decide to jump to 64bit, you need at least 4gb of ram.

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