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Name: zac
Date: June 19, 2003 at 17:39:04 Pacific
OS: w 2000 pro
CPU/Ram: pc- 133 - 128m
Comment:

Here is the current situation:
New motherboard
New CPU
New Ram

When I turn it on....
Fans spinning
Hard Drive is running
No beeps if I remove the Ram.
Actually no beeps at all, ever.
And now no lights on the front.

I had just installed a new CPU today. It worked for 5 minutes. So I shut it down and completed the assembly of the rest of the box. Now I have no video. Again!!!!

Everything SOUNDS good, but I can't see anything on the monitor.

????




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Response Number 1
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 17:59:55 Pacific
Reply:

Try resetting your CMOS, if that fails, try disconnecting everything, just leave the bare essentials, power, cpu, ram and vga. Try that and let me know.


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Response Number 2
Name: zac
Date: June 19, 2003 at 18:07:12 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the reply -

Reset the cmos - (this means just removing the jumper and replacing it , correct ?)

Tried bare essentials... and Same results.

No video-

This happened earlier on...Then I purchased a new MotherBoard = same results
Today I got a new CPU = same results

:(


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Response Number 3
Name: crazymoon
Date: June 19, 2003 at 18:16:43 Pacific
Reply:

could be the power supply


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Response Number 4
Name: Kev
Date: June 19, 2003 at 18:38:28 Pacific
Reply:

Could always try new ram, that's what will happen if your ram is not supported by your m/b. but that also happens for alot of things.


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Response Number 5
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 18:55:21 Pacific
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In order to reset the CMOS fully, it is best to remove the battery, disconnect the power and then move the jumper. You might also consider disconnecting all the front panel connectors and use a jumper to briefly bridge the power pins to try and fire it up.


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Response Number 6
Name: Zac
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:12:27 Pacific
Reply:

Tried that...still no results..any ideas..? I mean... shouldn't at least get beeps, when I take out the ram? Beeps at all.?


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Response Number 7
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:26:07 Pacific
Reply:

Could it be your video card? Whenever I have to troubleshoot something like this I start with removing everything but bare essentials, if I still get nothing, I move to swapping parts one by one, but not everyone has bits and pieces lying around. Have you checked your mobo manual for any jumpers that have to be set, CPU speed, vcore? Is the RAM installed in the first DIMM? When you run with bare essentials do you completely disconnect the extra components? Could you also provide more details on the make and model of the CPU, mobo, RAM and VGA card. I know I am asking a lot, but without being there myself, it is very hard to assist you.


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Response Number 8
Name: Kev
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:30:38 Pacific
Reply:

With no ram it won't work, no beeps no nothing. it's probably not your hard drive or cpu since you tried new ones and still nothing so the only thing it could be by the sounds of it is the ram, what brand is it? or your video card like adam said did you try your video card on another system?


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Response Number 9
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:38:39 Pacific
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I have seen systems with stuffed hard drives do exactly what Zac's is doing, but that aside, I am starting to think that this is more than likely caused by either the VGA card or the PSU. Try removing the VGA card altogether, if it is the vga card causing this, you should hear a sequence of five beeps indicating that there is no VGA card installed. If you still get nothing, I would look at the PSU.


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Response Number 10
Name: zac
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:42:38 Pacific
Reply:

The video is on-board. Samsung pc133 128 ram. And I also tried Kensington. Can RAM go bad easily ?
The samsung was brand new. I'll pick up some more ram tomorrow. And try it out. Otherwise... I'll drop it off the roof of my house, that might do the trick :)


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Response Number 11
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:47:34 Pacific
Reply:

Oh well, then my money is on your power supply, you have eliminated everything else. Still let me know what the make and model of the mobo and cpu is.


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Response Number 12
Name: zac
Date: June 19, 2003 at 19:53:51 Pacific
Reply:

MB - Intel D815EEA2 815E-CHIPSET
CPU - Intel P3


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Response Number 13
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 20:16:47 Pacific
Reply:

What speed P3? Is the RAM double sided or single sided?


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Response Number 14
Name: Adam
Date: June 19, 2003 at 20:21:15 Pacific
Reply:

One other possibility is that the mobo doesn't support FC-PGA2 cpu's. Does the CPU have a big silver heat spreader on it?


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Response Number 15
Name: ben rogers
Date: June 19, 2003 at 21:23:05 Pacific
Reply:

make sure ram is in the first dimm slot so the onboard graphics can function


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Response Number 16
Name: dieymir
Date: June 20, 2003 at 19:08:35 Pacific
Reply:

Adam seems to be wright, you need an Intel 815 B-Step chipset for PIII/Celeron FC-PGA2 (Tualatin) processors. Seems that you have one of those processors and your MB simply cannot handle it.
The Tualatin requires a new chipset because of its use of a lower voltage clocking specification. Pentium II/III processors use Assisted Gunning Transceiver Logic+ (AGTL+) technology for their FSB, the bus uses 1.5V signaling; however, the Tualatin uses a lower voltage bus that runs at 1.25V. More specifically, the Tualatin uses AGTL signaling that unfortunately requires a new chipset with support for 1.25V AGTL signaling instead of 1.5V AGTL+ signaling.
The fact that there aren't beeps without RAM is a good clue...
Besides that it is manufactured on a 0.13u process, the Tualatin requires much less power than the Coppermine core. The VRM 8.4 specification that was used by the Coppermine only provided support for voltages in 0.05V increments using four VID pins (VID0 – VID3). In order to provide support for smaller voltage steppings, the Tualatin requires a new VRM specification, VRM 8.5 that adds two additional pins: VID25mv and VTT_PWRGD. The VID25mv pin works in conjunction with the four original VID pins in order to allow for 0.025V voltage increments. The VTT_PWRGD pin requires a 1.25V input; if either of these two pins isn’t properly connected then the system will not boot.

You see, probably you are trying to use a Tualatin processor with a non-Tualatin board.


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