Hi

I just spent the afternoon building a PC with following spec:

Duron 1000mzh
Coolermaster HCF
PC CHIPs 810 LMR mobo
300W ATX Case
2*64mb PC133 ram
20 gb Maxtor
Onboard graphics and sound

The problem is it wont even start.

Tried the mobo on two ATX case - wont start.
Changed POWER BUTTON CONNECTOR orientation - still does not start.
Cleared CMOS - still does not start.
Tried starting with minium hardware - mobo, cpu, cooler, ram only - still will not start.

The power supply is good and working but the pc will not start.

Can someone help me?

You can’t get anything?

Try the MOBO out of the case and see if you can get something.

what do u mean by get it out of the case?

the pc wont even start - makes no noise...

Please help

" Try the MOBO out of the case and see if you can get something" means physically take the motherboard out of the case and build it on a piece of plastic on a table.

You should do this to find out if the motherboard is shorting against the case.

It may also be the power supply that is having problems giving enough voltage to get the system to come alive.

ok so do i build it outside on the static bag and then do i still connect the power supply to the mobo?

Please let us know...

much appreciated.!

Sorry that wasn’t clear.

Take the MOBO out of the case and set it on something nonconductive like cardboard or wood. Connect the power cords, HDD cable, and FDD cable. On the board you have one stick of RAM, your CPU, and display adapter.

Can I avoid the hdd and fdd cables as the fdd power connectors Yellow wire has come off...?

Please let us know

Many thanks...

You can but if you keep these connected you can try to boot off the FDD or HDD if either has a bootable disc. If you don’t connect them, I guess you can get POST then “invalid system disc”.

I don’t know what you’ll get that way if things are or aren’t working.

Did you check to see that all the jumpers
are set correctly?

The Motherboard will post without any drives
connected. all you need is power and a video card.
You will see the BIOS ID screen then a
memory test and thats all the ferther it will go without a FDD or HD

If you have checked all your connections
and jumper settings and everything is
set correctly and still nothing, you probubly have a dead board or CPU.

Good luck, Bernie

There is only 2 jumpers on this board...

only 1 jumber to clear cmos

and 1 jumper to select "Keyboard Power On feature

i tried clearing the cmos no help!

Please help...

Now with your computer down to your MOBO, one stick of RAM, your display adapter, your CPU, your PSU, and your HDD, start swapping things out until you get it to work. Like 666, I’m suspicious of your PSU. RAM is easy to swap. The display, CPU, and MOBO are harder to swap.

when you turn the power on.......
does the fan in the ps spin?
does the fan on the processor spin?

i tried swapping ram - still wont working...

i tried it with the bare neccessitis - i.e power supply, ram cpu, onboard graphics...

the damn thing does not make a single noise - no fan spins

i tried swapping the ram and a different psu - still no luck...

POSSIBLE DIAGNOSIS... Mobo messed or CPU messed or even both... How can I find out which one it is causing this grief..?

Please help...

Many thanks...

As you stated that no fans spin up, I would say you have either a dead or improper Power supply (watts too low, etc.). Replace PS with at least a 350 watt athlon certified atx supply. Things should work after this. I ran into this problem not long ago. Bought a new case for a system I was building and not even ps fan spun, nada, nothing. It was a dead power supply. I bought a new PS and everything worked fine.

Bad power supplies make it through quality control. I do know your feeling of that lead ball in your stomache, frozen to about absolute zero [wry grin].

Also, not to put you down or anything, but those motherboard standoffs exist to insulate the mobo from the metal surface of the inside of the case, to prevent massive shorting. So I hope that you are using them. I read in windrivers.com tech forum (before they went to a pay site) some horror stories by techs, of people building pcs WITHOUT those standoffs and wondering why pc don't work.

I hope my info helps you!

Charles

PS: to all of you. There was also a story by a tech of the guy who cooled the inside of his comp by stuffing it with bags of ICE!

I tried the mobo with the PSU that I use for my AthlonXP 1700+ (My AthlonXP is working great with the PSU), but still it did not work...

I am using standoffs by the way..

Could it be the that the Mobo is messed or CPU is messed or even both... How can I find out which one it is causing this anguish..?

Can anyone help?

Hey Max:

You deserve an award for your perseverance.

I’ve been where you are before and I know that the only award you want is for this thing to power up and boot.

Any chance you could swap the Duron into your other setup?

I dont feel like going through the hassle of openeing my hsf and then swapping the duron with the AthlonXP since I will have to aplly some new thermal paste on the HSF and stuff.

I will contact www.ebuyer.com and ask for a replacement for the mobo and the duron...

Many thanks...

Good luck!

Hey, post back when you get your new stuff and let us know how things turn out.

No problem guys...

Thanks for the help...

Very much appreciated...

Regards

Max

Hey before you do anything make sure that your cpu fan is connected to fan1 on the motherboard. Some of the boards for AMD Processor won't come alive untill it senses a load on fan1 I have encountered this problem several time with different boards.
Hope this helps

okay if i got this right
"Changed POWER BUTTON CONNECTOR orientation - still does not start." and
"fdd power connectors Yellow wire has come off...?"

you changed the regulation on the back from the 110v to the 220v i believe, this is too much power coming from american outlets, which caused your yellow wire to get too hot and melt and came off. If that is the case then you probably burned out the computer mobo or processor or both.

No advice to give on this one,

BUT

just wanted to say what a quality bit of reasoning that was by Raven.

Good stuff dude.

the LMR motherboard normaly doesn't start until the jumper for the bios JP4 has been changed from shorting the 1,2 pin's which is the clear CMOS Mem to the shorting pins 2,3 which is normal operations. until this jumper has been set the computer will not do anything, anything at all, no sounds no fans going nothing, change the setting there and the board should work otherwise i can't help.

Man, I have the same mobo, and it will not work without 133mram in the first socket. The mobo needs 1 x 133mb in the first soket, not 2 x 64.