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need sugestion on FSB speed

Original Message
Name: optiprime
Date: January 11, 2007 at 17:17:54 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
OS: gygabyte GA-8I915P duo pr
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4 Processor 630,
Model/Manufacturer: Built
Comment:
Pentium 4 Processor 630, 3.0GHz , 2mb L2 Cache, 800 MHz FBS
DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400)

gigabyte motherboard: GA-8I915P duo pro


I am in the process of OCing my computer but i dont really know what to do. my goal is 3.5GHz. the only changes iv done is moved the cpu host frequency from 200 to 210 and the vcore from 1.385 to 1.5 it gave me a 150MHz boost. so i am curently at 3.15

can anyone help me find out what my CPU host frequenct should be at or what could help me reach my goal, thx.

Alex


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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: January 11, 2007 at 17:48:22 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
"...i dont really know what to do"

The fact that you raised the CPU voltage for mere 10MHz FSB increase confirms that...yikes! Set it back at the default voltage ASAP!


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Response Number 2
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 11, 2007 at 18:27:07 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
You'd be surprised at how far a little googling can get you, especially in a situation like this, where you are trying to do something you aren't very familiar with.

http://www.legionhardware.com/docum...

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Response Number 3
Name: optiprime
Date: January 11, 2007 at 18:33:16 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
thank you, i turned my vcore back down and everything is ship shape. i dont understand doesnt raising the Vcore increse speed?

yes iv been googleing for the past 3 days, i sumwhat understand i just wanted to see what other ppl thought. :D

thx


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Response Number 4
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:13:39 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
Well, if you are of the impression that raising the CPU's voltage increases its speed - it's kinda hard to believe that you do understand how this all works, but we'll go with that - folks are very understanding on this forum.

Hopefully with the link I posted, you can stably crank the most of your processor. Good luck!

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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:19:48 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
"i dont understand doesnt raising the Vcore increse speed?"

No, it doesn't. Raising the FSB increases the speed. However, the increased speed causes the CPU to need more voltage...but it depends on the CPU & how far you go with the FSB. Generally, you don't increase the vcore unless it's necessary & if/when you do, it should be done a little at a time (add 0.025v each increase).


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Response Number 6
Name: optiprime
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:31:31 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
i plan on going to at least 3.7GHz out of my processor, witch i think would be about 280Mhz bus speed?

thx


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Response Number 7
Name: optiprime
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:46:30 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
also i have a question

how come when i change my bus speed anything over to 210 the memery frequency drops from 580MHz to 433Mhz?

isnt it supost to go up as the fbs increses?

thx


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:54:37 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
To properly overclock, you should take small steps & test the system after each change. You shouldn't just jump from 200MHz to 280MHz. Increase the FSB in 10MHz increments. After each change, boot into Windows & test for stability. If your system become unstable, that's when you'll need to increase the vcore slightly. You also need to be aware of what happens to the RAM speed as the FSB is increased, plus the PCI & PCI-E buses. You *should* be able to lock the PCI at 33MHz & PCI-E at 100MHz...that will solve that problem. The RAM probably has some sort of ratio setting that will need adjusting. Ideally, the CPU & RAM should run at the same bus speed (aka 1:1 ratio). In other words, even though your DDR675 RAM has a default speed of 337.5MHz, it should be underclocked to match the CPU bus. So if your CPU bus is at 280MHz, that's the speed your RAM should run at as well. Here's some detailed O/C info:

http://www.devhardware.com/forums/c...


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: January 11, 2007 at 19:56:36 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
If there is no ratio setting, simply set the RAM to DDR400. In your case, that's the same at 1:1.

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Response Number 10
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 11, 2007 at 20:08:19 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
It sure looks like a 3/4 memory divider is in effect, check your BIOS settings for your memory, and if you are to follow jam's advice - set that divider to 2/3 or 4/6, that way it'll be in tow.


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Response Number 11
Name: optiprime
Date: January 12, 2007 at 12:08:30 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
thank you everyone for your help :D

but since my RAM is rated for 337.5MHz, and you want to match your bus speed with your RAM my computer should run at 5.005GHz

337Mhz FSP
337Mhz RAM
x15 multiplier

337 x 15 = 5.005GHz ???


thx


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Response Number 12
Name: optiprime
Date: January 12, 2007 at 12:16:10 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
also if i set my ram to DDR400 its always going to ge the same MHz as my bus speed (1:1)?

thx


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Response Number 13
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 12, 2007 at 12:35:40 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
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"but since my RAM is rated for 337.5MHz, and you want to match your bus speed with your RAM my computer should run at 5.005GHz"

Set it at 5.005GHz - but don't be shocked if it fails to boot - there are physical limitations to these chips, you know ;-)

"also if i set my ram to DDR400 its always going to ge the same MHz as my bus speed (1:1)?"

Yes - because that is the 1:1 setting.


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Response Number 14
Name: optiprime
Date: January 13, 2007 at 21:59:54 Pacific
Subject: need sugestion on FSB speed
Reply: (edit)
"You *should* be able to lock the PCI at 33MHz"
what if i cant?

i am ocing to 3.42GHz and was able to run superPI at 1m in 39.sec. is this going to hurt anything?

thx


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