hi i want to up grade my system to a Core Duo / Core Duo extreme but i don't know which one is the best bet could anyone help me i need a processor which is good(stable), can be overclocked and most important cheap oh i board i like is asus p5b dulex/wifi please tell me if there is a better board from asus than the p5b dulex any help and suggestion will be greatly appricated thank you thank you maverick

The Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi and an E6300/E6400 is a good combo, but if you do not really need an inbuilt WiFi, firewire or RAID support and content with four SATA-II ports, as opposed to the six ports on the Deluxe board, the cheaper vanilla P5B and an E6600 is a better set IMHO. And don't forgetyou can still eke out a moderate overclock from that combo too. The Secret Letter From Iraq

I wouldn't even pay the money for a Core 2 Duo Extreme when you can drop in an E6600 and overclock to preform the exact same way as a Core 2 Duo Extreme if not more. Besides that from what I read Intel is dropping the Extreme name anyhow with it's next series of chips. I guess there are finally finding out what we all have been saying for 3 years now about overclocking a processor that is built on the same core with the same amount of cache to do the same thing as a Extreme or FX processor. I wonder if AMD will also finally get that memo. AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz 2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200 Nvidia 7900GT SATA II 2x 300gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0 Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI

" guess there are finally finding out what we all have been saying for 3 years now about overclocking a processor that is built on the same core with the same amount of cache to do the same thing as a Extreme or FX processor." Yes, but only a small percentage of Intel's/AMD's buyers actually know how to OC, the rest just buys an Extreme of FX when they need such speed. AMD64 X2 4400+ @ 2,5GHz Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe 2GB OCZ GOLD DDR500 Asus EN7900GTX 512MB @ 710/1750 Maxtor 250GB 16MB SATAII WD 160GB 8MB IDE Thermaltake Kandalf STEEL

Yeah but the price preformance advantage with an extreme or FX isn't worth the money when compared to the highest model that isn't and FX or an extreme. AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ OC 2.7ghz 2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200 Nvidia 7900GT SATA II 2x 300gig 7200rpm 16mb cache RAID-0 Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI

thanks for the sugesstion ok i will check the p5b mobo how do you think i should put a watercooling system in and how much a proformance difference will it make when i run it at it's default speed and when i oc it thank you maverick

IMO, water cooling is a waste of money...invest that money elsewhere. Tom's Hardware just did a review of 4 boards based on the Intel 975X chipset. The MSI 975X Platinum Power Up Edition got the nod: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/10...