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Is hyper threading any good?
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Name: oldpaddy
Date: September 27, 2003 at 16:42:56 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good?OS: WinMeCPU/Ram: P4 1.7 @ 2.12 BD7-Raid 5 |
Comment: I purchased a P4 3.2, abit IC7-MAX3, and WinXP. With XP and the IC7 I should be able to fully harness the power of HyperThreading... Is HT any good? Will I notice any differance? Thanks. GO RED SOX!!!!
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Response Number 3
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Name: SkipCox
Date: September 27, 2003 at 17:42:39 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)HT is good. Who are the RED SOX? Sorry, but I'm a GIANTS fan. Boy, did I ever have fun in the Combat Zone though.
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Response Number 4
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Name: oldpaddy
Date: September 27, 2003 at 17:52:23 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)I think the've pretty much killed the combat zone. There's always ol' reliable: the phenix. Too bad the Giants will lose the WS to the Sox.
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Response Number 5
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Name: sergio
Date: September 27, 2003 at 18:13:56 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good?
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Reply: (edit)come on guys, forget about sox and giants, atlanta all the way. !!!!!!!!!! wooooooo hoooooooooo
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Response Number 8
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Name: oldpaddy
Date: September 27, 2003 at 18:30:59 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Damn right. Don't worry Petey will get his ring. I just hope the evil empire beats the Twins, so the Sox can kick some bronx ass!!!
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Response Number 10
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Name: oldpaddy
Date: September 27, 2003 at 21:41:14 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Only one of those guys (I think Hudson) has a season ERA under 5 against the Mighty Red Sox. I think a smell yet another first round exit by the A's. PS- does anyone notice any difference with HT?
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Response Number 11
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Name: real_cool
Date: September 27, 2003 at 22:42:49 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good?
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Reply: (edit)HT allows dual threads to run instructions simultaneously as in dual processor server. It has nothing to do with speed or power. Dual processors / servers are used in office or manufacturing environment for years. HT is tricking the BIOS and O/S as if there were two processors. You have to use Y2K pro or XP to recognize HT. Some of the applications include editing your video while working on your tax return. In certain applications, HT slows down the process, i.e. playing a game / run program compiling and you are burning a CD, your game will suffer. This is why HT does not replace dual processor server. But, HT will improve home and small office network with files sharing over non HT but will not beat dual processor system. The last thing you don't seem like hearing is the temperature. It has a max case operating temp (without over clocking)of 38 degree C. And, the better the heatsink, the better and more heat dissipates right into your case.
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Response Number 12
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Name: net1994
Date: September 28, 2003 at 05:51:48 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)YES IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE! I am running a IC7 w/ XP Pro & P4c 2.4Ghz OCed to 3.1Ghz and I do notice that my PC boots up a bit quicker with HT turned on (by this, I mean 22 Seconds instead of 26 with HT turned off.) I tested out my rig with HT turned off in the IC7 Bios, and things were a tad slower. But I wasn't really running any apps that HT is really designed for like Adobe Photoshop, or ripping a DVD into a Divix file. I know that the HT would save SO MUCH more time with apps like these. [b]BTW, Gooooooooo Sox. I think they will make easy work of the A's, BUT the bullpen will be the disaster in the ALCS and the Yanks![/b] Just my $0.02 And too bad you spent all of that $$ on a 3.2Ghz P4. You could of saved a bundle by getting just a 3Ghz CPU, or just get a 2.4C and Overclock it. I mean with a MB like the MAX3, their is no reason to buy it if your just going to run the board at stock speeds.
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Response Number 13
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Name: Cannabis Indica
Date: September 28, 2003 at 06:36:28 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good?
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Reply: (edit)Dude, you'll never get to 250mhz FSB with a 3.2. That would be 4ghz!!! Impossible on air. You wasted your money on a 3.2 and pc4000 for nothing. LoL Even 240mhz would still be 3.8ghz. You'll be really lucky if you get that far. What's the use buying pc4000 if you can't use the full speed of it?? PC4000 can reach 260 if your lucky. The 2.8ghz would have been your best option. People with 2.6-3.0C's are going to be owning you in everything. LoL
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Response Number 14
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Name: johnoh
Date: September 28, 2003 at 07:32:19 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Hey there net1994 I don't have an HT machine but it seems like a key benefit of it is when multiple programs are being loaded at one time since they do not need to be loaded is a strict sequential process. If you have a chance and would like to tell us about it, you might try running a batch file with HT on and HT off, which looks like this: @ECHO OFF START C:\hugeapp1.exe START C:\hugeapp2.exe START C:\hugeapp3.exe START C:\hugeapp4.exe exit and timing it each way. I am curious if there would be a big difference.
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Response Number 15
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Name: real_cool
Date: September 28, 2003 at 09:54:01 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good?
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Reply: (edit)My partner's office is using the 2.8C as server. One guy would work on Autocad and the other works with Invector5 from two work stations using 2.4B. Before this, he had Tyan dual processor board running dual PIII. Without HT, one would have to wait for the other. Another applications would be if you can play two games at the same time.
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Response Number 16
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Name: macdaddy
Date: September 28, 2003 at 19:27:25 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)I have to get in on this one.Everyone knows the Florida Marlins will win the WS.Tuesday the Giants.
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Response Number 17
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Name: Janos
Date: September 29, 2003 at 06:24:05 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Hey Oldpaddy Just in case you dont like the HT rig you have send it to me I'l even pay for the postage. HT technology has come a long way since its introduction and not all that long ago, But in saying that it still has a long way to go to try and match a wel configured dual processor system. We have a global design division with 120 engineers and nearly 40 cad/cam stations, and evry one of them is a dual processor setup, with more ram and graphic cards that would make a grown man cry. I havent seen one HT rig to date that even comes close to one of these dual processor rigs. Including those which are not used for cad/cam purposes. When it comes down to pure number crunching capability the HT processors just cant make the cut. ( yet ) regards
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Response Number 18
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Name: Derk
Date: September 29, 2003 at 13:43:25 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Who cares about Baseball? HT is only good if your OS and or programs will suport it. I don't think ME supports it. I would find a better OS. ME is the worst of all worst. Go with Red Hat 9.0 or Mandrake 9.2. If you want a good windozs OS go with Windows 2000 Pro.
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Response Number 19
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Name: SkipCox
Date: September 29, 2003 at 16:25:55 Pacific
Subject: Is hyper threading any good? |
Reply: (edit)Derk, you certainly have your opinions; but we gotta do something when we're waiting for football season. Because paddy runs Me now doesn't mean he's married to it...to wit: "I purchased a P4 3.2, abit IC7-MAX3, and WinXP."
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