I read on a few sites that intels p4 will go true 64bit by the end of Q1 or at the start of Q2 of this year. Is there any truth to that and if there is what advantage wilt it have over the current AMD Athlon 64 939 processors?

Well with the little knowledge that I have on this subject, what I can say is the performance gap will be smaller because the A64 supports SSE2 instruction set as well as the 3D NOW! that AMD was anyway supporting right from the Athlons. With all due respects to HT, applications have to be written to use HT. Its like having a driver who knows how to use a powerful car. No point in having 300bhp if you dont know how to or cant drive fast. may not be the best analogy, but am just trying to explain the point. If Intel (as usual) price their processor too high then I'd expect and infact wish the A64 beats the P4 not only in benchmarks but also in sales. A P4 3.2GHz HT costs almost as much as a A64 3000+. Now, what would you buy? fall for the HT which wont be of any use to home users or get a 64bit processor and be sure that in the near future, games and even some applns will be written for this. And that the existing 32 bit applns will run much better on the A64 - 400FSB, on CPU memory controllers, SSE2 and what else? Good Luck and Happy Computing, Kailas Shastry, 2000+ at 150MHz core, cabinet side covers off! MSI KT266VM DDR 256MB ooold 10.2GB Samsung SV1

Yeah the only thing as of right now the AMD 64 939 mobo lack that Intel doesn't is DDR2 ram. I read that AMD's 64 latency's are low so they don't need it but if they did have DDR2 it would be surpass intel in almost every way.

Just to follow up on what I was saying..... Starting from August 1, 2004 for $278 Intel Pentium 4 processors with 64-bit registers will officially start to be sold on the 1st of August, 2004, at speed-bins and price-points equal to the ordinary desktop Pentium 4 chips. The product line will contain Pentium 4 at 3.20GHz, 3.40GHz and 3.60GHz priced at $278, $417 and $637 respectively. But on the August, 22, Intel is said to slash the pricing of its 3.40GHz and 3.60GHz chips to $278 and $417. A $637 SKU will join the family of 64-bit Intel Pentium 4 processors with 3.80GHz product introduction. The costs of the Pentium 4 chips with Extended Memory 64 Technology will be equal to processors with no such capability at the same core-clock. The new chips aimed at server and workstation markets will work with i925X or i925XE chipsets and will come in LGA775 form-factor. 64-bit Not for Everyone? Earlier this year Intel unveiled its Extended Memory 64 Technology also known under 64-bit Extension Technology or IA32e that let Intel’s Prescott, Nocona and Potomac processors to execute specially-written 64-bit code while maintaining absolute compatibility with today’s 32-bit applications. Nocona is code-name for Intel’s upcoming Xeon processors for 2-way servers and workstations launching in Q2 2004; Potomac is the name of the core that enables next-generation Xeon MP chips unveiling in the Q1 2005; Prescott is the core that powers current Pentium 4 E processors and will power special chips for uni-processor servers and workstations with 64-bit capability. Previously it was believed that all Prescott processors in LGA775 packaging, such as Intel Pentium 4 E, would sport EM64T, but Intel denied such claim. Intel said it would ship Prescott processors with 64-bit capability for 1P applications only to system integrators requesting such microprocessors for their servers and workstations. Although all Prescott CPUs, including Intel Pentium 4 and Celeron, are 64-bit from micro-architectural standpoint, processors supplying for retail channels as well as for typical desktops will have their 64-bit capability disabled. However, some sources doubt that it will be absolutely impossible for end-users and hardware enthusiasts to get Intel’s 64-bit Pentium 4 chips. They suggest that there will be some of such microprocessors supplied as OEM parts and reaching the channel. Intel’s officials did not comment on the story. Credit to X-Labs This article was from last year and the funny thing is that there aren't any Intel P4's 64 bits on the desktop market like this article said there was going to be by now. This makes me wonder if Intel is holding 64 bit processors back even futher then expected for some reason. I'm willing to make a guess that we won't see Intel p4 64bit chips out until the Final version Windows XP 64 comes out.

Cobra, please just post the link to the article you want to call attention to. Dont post the entire article. PLEASE!!. and mind you, there are ppl on this forum who themselves are capable of writing sound reviews. So just post a link, that would suffice. Good Luck and Happy Computing, Kailas Shastry, 2000= at 150MHz core, cabinet side covers off! MSI KT266VM DDR 256MB ooold 10.2GB Samsung SV1

Ok take a deep breath and chill.

Windows xp 64 bits final support p4 64 bits cpu´s? o_O