Name: vishal sharma Date: July 4, 2007 at 13:54:02 Pacific Subject: i need help on grafics cards OS: xp and vista CPU/Ram: p4@4.335gh/1gb 667mhz Model/Manufacturer: home made
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hi everyone im sure you remeber me. the one how tryed to build a games console, and failed. now im moving on to my next project, upgrading my s.l.i. rig and im a hardcore gamer but cant deside on upgrading my rig to an evga 8800 black pearl in sli or HD 2900XT in cross fire, also if i get the cross fire what is the best main board for ati cross fire with the best overclocking abilityes. if i pick the evga 8800 balck pearl in s.l.i. then i no that i will get the evga 680i black pearl motherboard so dont sujest any mainboards for if i get the sli cards insted of the ati cross fire i will be getting that mainboard
I think most will agree that SLi or Crossfire setups are a waste of money. But obviously you must have money to burn because the Black Pearl sells for $500 alone. Then there's the water cooling setup, two video cards, an SLi certified PSU, plus a new CPU & RAM.
Hopefully you weren't planning to reuse the "p4@4.335gh/1gb 667mhz"?
money to me is never an issue. i have an sli ready psu and i already have a water cooling system. im not going to re use my p4 im getting a core 2 duo wich im clocking at 3gz or higher! and yes im using the same ram. any way i realy need to no wich is the best set of cards and it will be much apreshiated
the 8800 by a far way, you may need more than 1gb of Ram and if you have the money go for 1066mhz(pc2 8500)Ram, and possibly quad core or C2D extreme Cpu as to not bottleneck the graphics cards!! Better hope the Psu is atleast 1kw!! aswell although it would be a nice setup once finished! Also should be able to push a C2D more than 3ghz normally 3.4ish good luck 02coled
Core2Duo E6400 @ 3.4ghz 2gb Elipedia 1066mhz5,5,5,15 EVGA 680i Ati Radeon X600 128mb 680w Thermaltake Purepower 2 x 250gb Sata XP Home
ok i think your right on getting more ram so now im getting ocz duel channle sli 2gb 1066mz. i live in england and its extreamly hard for me to track down the intel quade core but if anyone now's were 2 get 1 that would be great and my power suply is a stisfactory thermamaltake tough powere 850w. but now can we please get back on the main subject wich is better the ati cross fire or the sli cards. ow and my case is big enuff to hold the cards its a thermaltake kandalf lcs.
"can we please get back on the main subject wich is better the ati cross fire or the sli cards"
You do understand the difference, don't you? nVidia cards use SLi, ATI cards use CrossFire. Since you seem to want the 8800 series, you'll have to run SLi. And you already said you want the 'Black Pearl'...so that settles that.
One 8800GTX sells for $500+, so you'll have $1000+ going toward the cards. Tack on another $500+ for the Black Pearl...so now you're at $1500+. Your 850W PSU may or may not be powerful enough...for the time being, we'll assume it is. I'm sure you won't wanna bottleneck your two video cards, so you'd better get a damn powerful CPU. The Core 2 Extreme X6800 Conroe goes for about $1000...that brings you to $2500+. Add to that 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800 CL4 RAM for another $500 & your total jumps to about $3000 USD.
wow all in all thats about £1,500 i thought it would be £2,000 or over:).i was origonoly going to get my sli configeration but when i herd about the new ati card beating the 8800 ultra in a few 3d marks i got confused agen so im still tring to decide ati cross fire configeratio or the sli configeration. also the ati configeration has a very unic feature it can carry 5.1 surround sound and you can do that with other dvi cards.
thanks sabertooth now i no were to get a quade core. thanks.
if i buy a dictionary will you finally stop complaining about my spelling :) also do you no any software to measure the cpu temp so i can find out my cpu temp when im running 3d mark 06
im a bit conserned about the cpu temp becase when my rig is fully built im going to have my water cooling system hooked up to my cpu, 4 sticks of ram, 4 places in the mainboard, 2 grafics cards so i just need to no if im not pussing the water cooling system to much, also i was thinking it might be safer to put a second water cooling system in.
i dont have my two black perarl grafics cards yet im waiting for evga to bring out a superclocked version.
just to clarify i got the case, watercooling system, power suply unit and im still getting mainboard, 2 gpu, 4 ocz flex ram and the quade core cpu ow and last but not least 4 western digital 150gb hard drives in 2 raid 0 configerations. 1 for win xp and 1 for vista.
if your wondering how long until my rig will be built it should be before december. i no i no its a and i sed money wasent an issue but it just became an issue and i no its a long time but im finding it harder to get the money then i origonaly though bearing in mind its a expensive build.
ow right and i no i sed in responce 10 i got a quade core cpu but then the web site told me they were out of stock when i order it. i probably should have menshond that earlyer lol
You're going WAY beyond anything I would even consider building & it's not because I don't have the money. I just think it's a complete waste of money. PC hardware depreciates at such a rate that it's stupid to 'invest' in bleeding edge components. And for what purpose?? To play friggin games?? YIKES!!
SLi is a waste...water cooling is unnecessary...RAID-0 is a bad idea. And paying £400 ($800) for a motherboard is absolutely ridiculous.
And your spelling & grammar are so horribly bad that it makes me wonder if you're even capable of building such a machine. Especially after your absurd post about building a CPU from scratch. I think you just like to post nonsensical ideas to see what kind of response you get.
Hey, I have an idea. Since you're SO worried about temps, why don't you have several water cooling systems? You could have one for the CPU, one for the video cards, one for the RAM, one for the XP RAID array, & one for the Vista RAID array. And maybe you could pass all the cooling lines thru your refrigerator or better yet, buy a refrigerator strictly for that purpose. Or how about turning a refrigerator into a PC case? The possibilities are endless!!
is you spelling bad because you touch type very badly or what cause you seem asif you can do it from your last response or is this because you seem to try and check it all before posting :s
Core2Duo E6400 @ 3.4ghz 2gb Elipedia 1066mhz5,5,5,15 EVGA 680i Ati Radeon X600 128mb 680w Thermaltake Purepower 2 x 250gb Sata XP Home
also on the water coolign front no need for another setup just add another radiator after your cpu of the Sli cards, atleast a dual 120mm fan if not a tri one
Core2Duo E6400 @ 3.4ghz 2gb Elipedia 1066mhz5,5,5,15 EVGA 680i Ati Radeon X600 128mb 680w Thermaltake Purepower 2 x 250gb Sata XP Home
Too bad you've already gotten some of the components needed for the uber gaming rig. Otherwise, you could have just ordered an SLI Area-51 ALX system from Alienware.
After all, the £100 you are going to save trying to put it all together yourself isn't really tangible - based on your overall budget. But then again, I think I might have caught a statement from you already lamenting your funding stream.
And before you get all giddy up about it .... below is an excerpt from a review based on the hardware.
"One, few games take advantage of the PhysX hardware at all, and the few that do don't use the PPU's processing power in a compelling way.
Two, the most common physics elements in today's games, rigid-body objects and particle effects, can be handled fairly well by high-end, dual-core CPUs, based on our CellFactor tests. That fact may narrow the PhysX cards' primary selling points to the acceleration of things like fluids, cloth, and complex interactive particles.
Ageia argues that offloading all physics to the PPU is good because it frees up CPU time, but it ain't easy to sell folks on offloading a CPU core that would otherwise be largely idle."
It seems to me that you are just kidding with us. A person like u with a lot of money to spend and with knowledge about graphic cards but none about major manufacturers is kinda strange. Go buy one of those pc world subscription if u hav money.
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