how to overclock + what NOT to do

August 18, 2010 at 12:06:00
Specs: Windows 7
needed to get my lag corrected w faster cpu.Current cpu is athlon 64 3000+ @1800ghz (core unk). Got the best I could find. Just arrived Athlon 64 x2 4400 (toledo core). Ive never tried oc. But since i have an old cpu to try it out on.....Im pretty computer and hardware literate. Need any and all tips, advice, and especially the dont do's. The motherboard is ABIT AX8 3rd eye ver1.0 . only have ddr400 can configure w 2-1gb and 2-1gb sticks, different manufacturers. or 2-1gb kingston value ram and 2-512 kingston hyper-x. I think that sums up all the goodies. Also have ex cooling w thermaltake tsunami case. thx

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August 18, 2010 at 14:15:14
For starters, here's a link to your motherboard specs:

"Just arrived Athlon 64 x2 4400 (toledo core)"

Are you sure that CPU will work? According to the ABIT website, the max your board supports is the single core A64 4000+. I did a quick search & couldn't find anything saying that the X2 is supported.

This site lists the same thing:

You can still practice overclocking your 3000+ but it would help to know the core...some cores overclock better than others. Try running CPUZ:

You *should* be able to get it up to at least 2.25GHz. Try the following BIOS settings....

Under the μGuru Utility > OC Guru:

- User Define
- external clock = 250MHz
- multpllier factor = x9
- PCIe frequency = 100MHz
- PCI frequency = 33MHz

Under Advanced Chipset > DRAM Configuration

- DRAM clock = 333MHz

Under Advanced Chipset > LDT & PCI Bus Control:

- LDT Bus frequency = 800MHz (or 4x), whichever is available

The above will run the CPU at 2.25GHz, RAM at approx 204MHz (DDR408), & LDT (aka HT link) at 1000MHz. If the system becomes unstable or unbootable, don't panic. Simply reset the BIOS using the clearCMOS jumper & start over from scratch. But this time, increase the CPU voltage a little. I don't know what your default voltage is but start with default + 0.025v

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August 21, 2010 at 05:36:59
thx for the data, ill give it a whirl.
As for the processor , it works on my board but doesnt do any better for i cant access needed features w/o another bios. There is an ax8v2.0. from everything i see its axactly the same hardware w one via chip thats stamped "r" and the bios. They are both award bios but i cant find out if the actual bios chip is the same. I might try flasshing it. Anyhoooooooo im looking for a motherboard. so far its the asus a8n-e n-force 4 ultra @$70 out the door. Looking at same w sli but i doubt ill invest another 150 to match my exising card.Same that move for my next system. Any thoughts on the asus or??????????? PS the athlon 64 processor is model #ada3000da4bp. interesting that at amd web page i put in that # and got zip??. thx wattsy

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August 21, 2010 at 05:40:56
model # ada3000daa4bp
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August 21, 2010 at 07:51:13
Why are you investing that kind of money in outdated hardware? The S939 is a dead end. You don't need a new'd just be throwing your money away. I think you're expecting too much out of the CPU upgrade.

The ADA3000DAA4BP is the Venice core w/E3 stepping. It should be a very good overclocker.

There are two versions of the X2 4400+...ADA4400DAA6CD which is rated at 110W & ADV4400DAA6CD which is rated at 89W. The "V" model is the better choice because it requires less power & is the better overclocker.

I had no problem finding any of those CPUs at the AMD website.

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August 21, 2010 at 10:12:47
i do apreciate your assistance. and plan to try it out hopefully tomarrow. the only reason i want to get setup is so i dont laaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggg so bad in my online game. My video card works perfect. I can see that ive hit my target but the processor is bscked up enough that i end up getting shot. Being my slowest time of year i just wanted to get enough umph to get past the lag. In six months I'll be in a cash flow situ that i can make a really fine system somewhere between 1500 to 1800. So unless i can get that 2nd core to kick in, ill need a decent but cheap board to get by on for the next few months. I got 70 into the processor that asus is 70 ,everything else will flip over (memory, video, drives), Its killin me (no pun intended) to get whiped out like that from a processor back log and i refuse to get or use any electronic "steroids" like aimbots etc. that unfortunately are becomming more widespread. wattsy

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August 21, 2010 at 10:20:56
the reason i chose the toledo (ada) over the other one was that is has 2x the L2 cashe as the 2x1gb. as the winchester manchester, and venice are 2x512mb L2 cashe. Thats probibly the reason for the extra voltage.

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August 21, 2010 at 11:23:07
Is the second core not showing in Task Manager?

Super PIII | Unlocked ES Tualatin @ 1.8GHz (150x12, 1.65v, 512K L2)
2GB PC2700 | 500GB | Radeon x1950Pro | Apollo Pro 266T | Win 7 Pro

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August 21, 2010 at 11:24:54
The ADV is also a Toldeo core but it's more's the better of the two.

The majority of the time, the 2nd core is idle. It only becomes a benefit if you run games or programs that are optimized for two cores.

Online lagging is *usually* due to a poor internet connection. Other than that, gaming relies heavily on the graphics card. I find it curious that you didn't mention the make/model of your card other than saying it "works perfect".

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August 21, 2010 at 12:57:33
"The majority of the time, the 2nd core is idle."

Most new games make use of at least two CPU cores. Heck, the opening of Windows' Control Panel shows up on both CPU graphs (around 4% on each core).

Super PIII | Unlocked ES Tualatin @ 1.8GHz (150x12, 1.65v, 512K L2)
2GB PC2700 | 500GB | Radeon x1950Pro | Apollo Pro 266T | Win 7 Pro

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August 21, 2010 at 21:35:48
the video card is a N-Vidia GeForce GTS 250 w 1gb ddr3
in a pci-express 16 slot.
Both cores show up. 1 for processes 1 for services.
As soon as the game fires up boom the processes cpu pegs @ 100% and stays there, the other nada but it is working for it occasionally shows movement on the graph.
I have been using Game Boost by IOBIt. Nice program, Noticable improvement, I dont lag as bad and occasionally the processor dips to 95% briefly. Its a free program, it basically shuts down the uneeded processes and services with the a quick click (lots better than manually) and also has options to turn off programs as well. You also have the option not having something turn off if u find u need it. Had a couple snags with xp but none w win7.
Could be the game. Its older. Delta Force Black Hawk Down.
I have Battlefield-Bad Company. Havent installed it. Ill try it and see if the other core gets used. Im also going to try and flash the bios with the bios of the v2.0 of my abit board. Might work thay are both award. Dont know if the chips are the same tho.

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August 21, 2010 at 23:04:45
the video card is good for newer titles.
If u can see both cores in task manager then both cores are fine.
I think this isn't a hardware issue.
Have u try non-online games?

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