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Name: birdie800
Date: July 3, 2003 at 00:11:27 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
OS: win xp
CPU/Ram: xp 1700-Tbred B
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Hello, I've just purchased an xp 1700 Tbred-B cpu and an slk 800 heat sink. I'm looking to o/c this cpu to its max, but wanted to know how I can check the stability of my settings. Is there a good program I can use to check to see if my settings are stable? How will I know that I have pushed it to its max? Thanks.


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Response Number 1
Name: johnoh
Date: July 3, 2003 at 06:56:52 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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If you can boot to windows that is one level of stress to endure, then it is a matter of running a program which will cause you to lock up due to even more stress/heat. To finalize your settings a lot of people run Prime95 overnight, but for quick tests I like to use Toast and superpi.

http://www.geocities.com/btvillarin/Downloads/Toast.zip

http://home.istar.ca/~lyster/pi/super_pi.zip

http://www.octools.com/files/prime95.zip


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Response Number 2
Name: birdie800
Date: July 3, 2003 at 07:46:44 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Are these program diagnostic tools that will tell you if the cpu is stable? Or do you simply run them to see if the cpu can handle the stress these programs put on the cpu?


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Response Number 3
Name: birdie800
Date: July 3, 2003 at 07:49:26 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Also, what's a good program I can use to see my cpu temps in windows? I'd like to see the temps in 'real time' if I could. Meaning, I'd like to see the temp change as it is in use. I currently use Sandra to check my temps, but I don't want to have to run a test everytime to see what my temps are. Thanks.


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Response Number 4
Name: Kev
Date: July 3, 2003 at 09:00:05 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Go to http://www.hmonitor.com/...but remember the temps that you get in these programs can be completely wrong higher or lower,so just check in the bios and see what the difference is between them. this program lets you select a diode a thermistor or a transistor to monitor the temps also monitors your hard drive temp,voltages and fan speeds.


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Response Number 5
Name: johnoh
Date: July 3, 2003 at 09:04:58 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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the stress tests will either cause you to lock up, or they will finish and that's how you know you are stable. I am unaware of a program that will cause a cpu failure yet be able to recover from it and keep running and tell you that you're beyond the cpu's limits. That would be nice to have though.

For temp I like this program

http://vcool.occludo.net/

since you can choose a 1 second sampling interval which gives you real time temps and it also has this miniwindow feature that will let you lock a small window on top of whatever else is running so your temp is always visisble. Turn the NB coobit off in options.


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Response Number 6
Name: Balram Adlakha
Date: July 3, 2003 at 12:51:42 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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most stress programs do not work as much as they boast. The best way is to run something like quake III arena (or its variants) for a couple of hours.

They other way is to try setting up "red hat linux" on your system. Its install program "Anaconda" is so cpu intensive that it will quit in the middle of installing if your cpu gives ONE bad result.


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Response Number 7
Name: birdie800
Date: July 3, 2003 at 17:03:54 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Okay, I installed Vcool, but it doesn't work. When I try to start the program, a dialogue box appears and says 'No VT8371/VT8363 Northbridge detected.' I have a soyo kt400 dragon ultra platinum mobo. What should I do? If this program isn't compatible with my mobo, then can someone suggest another one please? Thanks


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Response Number 8
Name: Kev
Date: July 3, 2003 at 17:15:10 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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LOL same thing i got..it doesn't support your board i don't think. try the one i posted.


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Response Number 9
Name: johnoh
Date: July 3, 2003 at 17:22:23 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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the wrong northbridge detected error is only if you want to use the cooling option, which you don't.


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Response Number 10
Name: birdie800
Date: July 3, 2003 at 17:24:52 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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But I can't get the program open so that I can change any settings (i.e. turn off the cooling option within the program). Unless there is a way to configure the program without running the program first.


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Response Number 11
Name: Kev
Date: July 3, 2003 at 17:41:27 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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I think johnoh is maybe using an older verion where you could turn it on/off from inside the program,but now it's turned on from the start and that's why it's causing that??


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Response Number 12
Name: Kev
Date: July 3, 2003 at 18:00:41 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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I decided to download the new version of hmonitor and it also doesn't work on my system lol.


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Response Number 13
Name: johnoh
Date: July 3, 2003 at 23:50:47 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Kev is right - vcool seems to start with the coolbit turned on by default which causes a lock up on some machines. That happened to me too, but I noticed the lock up only happened after a couple seconds so I tried it again and was able to go in and turn the nb coolbit option off quickly enough so that it no longer started with the coolbit on. You could also try booting to safe mode and turning off the coolbit.

I just emailed Martin asking how to start vcool with the coobit off. He is the author and a helpful guy.

One thing to note is that if you are using a half multiplier (11.5, 14.5, etc), try using a whole-number multiplier instead and seeing if that let's you start vcool it without locking up so you can turn off the coolbit.


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Response Number 14
Name: johnoh
Date: July 4, 2003 at 05:00:24 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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to start vcool with no cool bit create a shortcut that has the switch "/b0", i.e.

VCool.exe /b0

and it starts with cooling disabled.


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Response Number 15
Name: birdie800
Date: July 5, 2003 at 12:41:09 Pacific
Subject: how to check stability when o/cing
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Hey Kev, I just installed that Hmonitor program you suggested. Would you happen to know where I can get a crack or registration for it?


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