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Name: Ash
Date: November 12, 2002 at 22:53:44 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: AMD 2100 512Mg ddr
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Hi all,
I don't know a hell of a lot about CPU's and overclocking and voltages and such coz I've never bothered to do so.
But I have a problem....

I am running a AMD XP 2100+ on an ASUS A7V333 motherboard with 512Mg RAM

Using Asus probe I set the temperature thresholds at 72 degrees for the chip and 55 degrees for the motherboard.

Asus Probe detects my motherboard temp at around 30-35 degrees celcious. It detects the CPU temperature at mid to low 60s celcious at rest.

When under 100% load for 10 minutes, the probe detects the CPU temperature increasing to 72 degrees (the threshold level) and will further increase to 75 degrees at which point I exit all games/programs/rendering and aim a portable desk fan at the chip until it cools to about 55-60 degrees.

The comp has never shut down or done anything erratic, I am just being overly cautious because I don't want my chip to melt.....


My question(s) is this:

In your opinion is ASUS probe reading the temperature correctly?
At what temperature will the chip be in danger of melting?
What can i do to fix the problem?

I downloaded a hardware sensors monitor program and it tells me that my CPU core voltage is +1.78 which in its opinion places it in a red zone (too high)

Is this whats causing my high temps and how do I reduce it?

Thanks all
,
Ash.


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Response Number 1
Name: Ash
Date: November 12, 2002 at 22:57:19 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
Reply: (edit)

In addition.....
Yes the fan on the cpu is working :) , I am using the stock heatsink and fan that come with the chip......


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Response Number 2
Name: Stillson
Date: November 13, 2002 at 07:24:46 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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Hello Ash,

I have the same motherboard as you but I am only running a XP1700+ and I was getting high CPU temps with the stock HSF. In my opinion with AMD the temps you are getting with the stock HSF are good (but not good, if you know what I mean). I would go out and buy a better HSF (I bought a Volcano 7) and fit it with some artic silver. The volcano 9 would be good in your case.

As for the Vcore readings you are getting, I am not the man to ask but I think they have a 10% range that they can operate safely in.

Have a good one!!!!!!


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Response Number 3
Name: vapors
Date: November 13, 2002 at 11:50:29 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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Just put my system together last night, after 3 hours of heavy load the temp was at 65 degrees C with the side of case off. My apartment is 23 degrees C, I have an aluminum case and 7 fans moving air in it. My voltage looks on the high side as well. What’s going on? I just want someone to post that under 70 I shouldn’t worry!!! I didn’t use the copper shim, but the volcano 6 was a major pain to install and I don’t want to redo it unless the copper shim is really going to help. I read today that it only helps prevent against cracking the processor while attaching the heat sink. A cracked processor couldn’t be causing this temp issues, could it?

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Asus A7V8X-L (Raid) with AMD Athlon XP 2200+ (1.80Ghz) 266FSB CPU & FanBZBP#A7V8X-L (Raid)
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Thanks!!!


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Response Number 4
Name: Sean
Date: November 13, 2002 at 13:42:39 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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Those temps are extremely high....I run a xp2000+ and at idle my motherboard is 27 celsius and my cpu is 42.5 celcius.....under load it's about 48 celcius....I would suspect your heatsink isn't on properly....mine wasn't when first installed then took it off seated it properly and cpu temp came down.....over 55 celcius you've got a prob.


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Response Number 5
Name: Matthew Hardy
Date: November 13, 2002 at 13:49:45 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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Thanks Sean, I'll reseat it.

What do you think about "Burn in" & Taking the black stuff off the bottom of your heat sink?


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Response Number 6
Name: Ash
Date: November 13, 2002 at 15:03:28 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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Many many thanks for all the follow-ups.....

Another ignorant question for you all:

I assume software temperature monitoring takes the readings directly from the bios?

If not, I imagine the bios reading would be more correct, yeah?


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Response Number 7
Name: Ash
Date: November 13, 2002 at 16:44:10 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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My I've got a lot of dumb questions today....

I'm getting different readings from a hardware monitor than for what a website says.... (http://www.sense-computers.com/acatalog/Athlon_XP__Processors.html)

Okay, the hardware monitor reading is before the colon, the website 'fact' after the colon....

Int. clock freq - 1,735.0Mhz:1.70Ghz

Ext. clock freq - 138.0 Mhz:(doesn't say)

System Bus - 277.6Mhz DDR:266Mhz

Multiplier 12.5:13

So there are some differences there.....

Now as I may have said earlier, I've never overclocked it, I just took it out of the box and put it together (carefully I might add).

I was under the impression that the A7V333 came in jumperless mode, and therefore all of these settings where set automatically in the bios to autodetect. The only thing I had to enter was when it said what speed do you wish your cpu to run at? 1400, 1700, or 2100 and I picked 1700, knowing that the 2100+ runs at 1700.

So should I be changing my settings in the bios to manual and entering the figures off of the website or leave it alone?

Thankyous in advance for your patience.....
Ash.


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Response Number 8
Name: Stillson
Date: November 14, 2002 at 02:31:22 Pacific
Subject: High CP temp and high core voltage
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I would leave it as is!


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