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Help me overclock Duron 1.3Ghz

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Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 29, 2003 at 18:32:21 Pacific
OS: Windows 98
CPU/Ram: Duron 1.3Ghz/384MB PC100
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I bought a combo special from pricewatch.com. It was a Duron 1.3Ghz with Asus A7V133 motherboard + fan + heatsink. I tried to overclock the Duron by rasing the front side bus, and it seems 103Mhz FSB is the highest I can go. Anything beyond will lead windows crashing, black screen and blue screen. Any idea? I couldn't unlock the AMD Duron 1.3Ghz with No.2 Pencil marking L1 bridge, any help will be appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: SkipCox
Date: August 29, 2003 at 19:34:28 Pacific
Reply:

That's about as far as I can go without hassles. I've run at 104Mhz but am at 102 now.

Multiplier changes simply don't work either.

I noticed a difference between 100 and 101 but not much after that. Benchmarking can detect it but I can't.

I like to hear all about it if you find a way to do it.

Skip

BTW, I'm running a MSI 6330 V5.0 Mobo/512Mb 133SDRAM.


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Response Number 2
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 29, 2003 at 19:46:06 Pacific
Reply:

I tried to use 110Mhz FSB, it bootup, but stucked when loading windows 98, saying this some error stuff and crap, but then when I lower back to 100Mhz, it works fine. I was suprised that my PC100 CL2 RAM runs flawlessly under 133Mhz CL3, stable, no crash no nothing. I didn't increase the voltage at all. My goal is to reach 1.5Ghz. But now im stucked with 103Mhz FSB. I gotta *get* myself one of those pimp machine. Big Athlon 3200+ or fancy Pentium 4 3.2Ghz with 1GB Dual Channel DDR400, Radeon 9800 PRO Geforce FX 5900 Ultra. BTW, when you gonna *get* one of those pimpy machine from someone, you can call me up, I need one of those right now. =P


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Response Number 3
Name: SkipCox
Date: August 29, 2003 at 19:52:30 Pacific
Reply:

TMP,

To continue from the other thread, I'm running 276w on a generic 350w p/s.

Since we're raising the fsb here, about any component can give us trouble. I understand that somewhere around the 109Mhz range is about the best anyone can expect.

Also, I haven't been able to find anything difinitive on overclocking a Morgan core Duron. Helluva lot of info on everything else though. I'm certainly open to any suggestions.

What I do like about this machine is, when I ask it to do something it does it and does it immediately.

Can't ask for much more.

Skip


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Response Number 4
Name: SkipCox
Date: August 29, 2003 at 20:05:02 Pacific
Reply:

I working on something to overclock. I have a 1700+ but right now I'm looking for a combo with a 1700 or 1800+ at pretty lo dollar.

The 1700+ is exactly what I want but, the motherboard, memory and video card prices have that on hold until I win the lottery or stop spending my money on environmental classes and training certifications. Every little class I attend seems to cost 500 bucks.

The Duron1300 will go on a everything onboard motherboard to give to a guy I work with and the 1800+ or whatever will end up on this board.

Glad to hear your memory works well. I don't even know what I have in this thing.
Believe it's generic from PC Club.

Skip


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Response Number 5
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 29, 2003 at 20:36:30 Pacific
Reply:

It's hard to use Athlon 1700+ with SDRAM motherboards. Luckily my Asus motherboard will support upto Palomino Athlon XP 2100+, but I need the lastest BIOS and it seems to be having problems with, at least 5 people I heard from computing net and some of my friends too. If you planning to buy the Athlon XP, I'd suggest you get urself some DDR RAM. Until I win the lottery, I will buy myself a main frame computer. I buy one for you too. Until then, I'm stucked with a unoverclockable Duron 1.3Ghz. Sigh... Even though someone give me an Athlon or Athlon XP for free, I can't upgrade it cause of my stupid 250 watt power supply. I'm pretty much the same with you, I have classes to attend around 600-700 with books per each class, not cheap.


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Response Number 6
Name: Kevn
Date: August 29, 2003 at 20:51:28 Pacific
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Lucky i get paid close to $1000 a week;).. that is when i actually work. I work with my dad doing roofing and brick laying and stuff.


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Response Number 7
Name: SkipCox
Date: August 29, 2003 at 21:12:15 Pacific
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My board will support a 2600+, just won't accept anything other than sdram. I found a motherboard for the Duron that comes with a 2000+/hsf for 130 bucks. That'll give the Duron a home and I'll have a proc to use.

I'm leaning toward a Abit nf7-s for a new board but the memory and video card costs will turn that 100 bucks into much more.

This will get my friend running and I can get my 2 166's back and give them to friends for their kids school work.

It'll all work out.

Skip

P.S. I helped a friend with a 2500+ on this same board, 1Gig SDRAM, and XP Pro; it works fine. Just imagine without the memory bottleneck.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: August 30, 2003 at 07:01:41 Pacific
Reply:

Don't know if this will help or not....

http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa/xp_painting.html


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Response Number 9
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 30, 2003 at 09:43:46 Pacific
Reply:

That is exactly what I did, I connected the L1 bridge with my No.2 Pencil, no luck there. I guess they are just totally locked up for good.


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: August 30, 2003 at 15:16:53 Pacific
Reply:

Probably a dumb question...but you are trying to lower the multiplier, aren't you?


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Response Number 11
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 30, 2003 at 21:14:25 Pacific
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Nope, I'm trying to increase my multiplier from 13x to 13.5x and beyond. I tried 13.5 after marking L1 bridge, no luck there so I figure if I set to 14x, 14.5x 15x will be totally useless. If I can lower my multiplier and set my FSB up, I would do it but the problem is that my FSB will not go any further than 103Mhz. This is what I really want to do

133 x 11 = 1466Mhz --- Impossible 103Mhz FSB is my max
100 x 13.5 = 1350Mhz ---- locked at 13x
100 x 14 = 1400Mhz ----- locked at 13x
100 x 14.5 = 1450Mhz ---- locked at 13x
100 x 15 = 1500Mhz --- This is my goal here


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Response Number 12
Name: aaa
Date: August 30, 2003 at 22:18:16 Pacific
Reply:

hey guys. I didn't read all the posts but u should know this about the duron. 1.3ghz is the limit of durons. U could of bought a 900mhz duron and overcloaked to 1.3ghz but to overclock a 1.3ghz is not possible. Well until the new durons come . Wait for those and buy the lowest frequence of those and then go overclocking crazy on them eh. Thats what they will be for after all. lol.
U should read some of the many overclocking durons reviews, they all will tell u the samething. Sry guys. but its bad news until new durons come.


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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: August 30, 2003 at 23:13:28 Pacific
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why is 103 mhz FSB your max? Because of the Duron? I know it's not the limit of your board cuz I have the same one & I'm clocked at 10 x 140 FSB with an Athlon 1.333. All you're doing is increasing the speed of your processor...you'll see very little (if any) "real world" difference by doing that. Have you tried 10 x 133? I realize you only have PC100 RAM, but since it's CL2, it may run at 133


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Response Number 14
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 30, 2003 at 23:47:00 Pacific
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Like I said, I cannot raise my FSB beyond 103Mhz, my system will crash if I do it. Right now my CPU FSB is at 100x2 (200Mhz) RAM is at 133Mhz. When I overclock to 103Mhz, I lower down my RAM to 103Mhz as well to sychronize with the FSB. The system will boot at 110Mhz, but just that I can't load windows 98. During the middle of the procesor, I see this smart monitor thingy saying error that error stuff like that. I'm very sure the limit for the Duron is 1.5Ghz. I used sisoft sandra 2002 to check out my CPU. It said Morgon 1-1.5Ghz 1.75-1.8v something like that. So I'm very sure that it will run at 1.5Ghz. The Duron is not much different from AMD Athlon, just that Duron have 64k L2 cache vs Athlon with 256k cache. If Athlon have 1.4Ghz processor, why can't Duron? Since duron have less cache and use less power = less heat, why can't I get it upto 1.5Ghz? I'm very sure the Duron only run at 110Mhz FSB max, anything beyond will be unstable. I read few threads that having the same problem too, they have Duron 1.3Ghz. Best one of all is 110Mhz, some are at 107Mhz range and I'm at the unlucky range, 103Mhz. Anyways, Multiplier is locked no matter what I do with it, well I guess I'll just wait till my friend will give up his Athlon XP and give it to me for free. =D


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Response Number 15
Name: jam
Date: August 30, 2003 at 23:48:12 Pacific
Reply:

Also, check your manual...there are different BIOS settings spelled out specifically for the Duron & others for the Athlon. You also may want to try your memory setting on NORMAL instead of OPTIMAL...I think that basically enables or disables the 4-way Bank Interleave


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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: August 30, 2003 at 23:50:43 Pacific
Reply:

Make sure the XP is a Palomino...this mobo doesn't support the T-bred...believe me, I found out the hard way...lol


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Response Number 17
Name: TMP-Man
Date: August 31, 2003 at 10:17:08 Pacific
Reply:

I do not have any problems with my memory. All my PC100 SDRAM are 7.5ns (143Mhz max @ CL3). They are just like the PC133 RAM except got mark down to PC100. I tried the normal seting, its not the RAM, the Hard Drive, I'm 100% sure its the Duron processor. They just dont accept anything beyond 103Mhz. Ok here is what happen

101Mhz = Pefectly stable
102Mhz = Perfectly stable
103Mhz = Perfectly stable
104Mhz = Bootup fine, but frozen during intensive benchmark
105Mhz = Bootup windows 98, but when I come to desktop screen, frozed there and I can't move mouse or see any icons or start menu.
106Mhz = Same as 105Mhz
107Mhz = I got error during bootup saying smart disk error, vdisk something error like that. I tried to enable/disable smart monitor for hard drive, samething, no luck.
108Mhz = same as 107Mhz
109Mhz = same as 107Mhz
110Mhz = same as 107Mhz
111Mhz = same as 107Mhz
112Mhz = Black Screen
113Mhz and beyond = Black Screen.

My CPU voltage is already at 1.8v, 0.5v mroe than standard Duron 1.75v. I can set it to 1.85v same problem, I just can't go beyond 103Mhz.


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Response Number 18
Name: jam
Date: August 31, 2003 at 10:49:02 Pacific
Reply:

Well, I have no experience with a 1.3 Duron, nor have I ever tried a Duron on my Asus board...but I do have a locked 1.2 Duron (Morgan core) clocked at 1344 (12 x 112mhz) on my Chaintech 7AJA2E mobo (KT133E chipset) & it's completely stable. Unfortuantely, that board has no vcore adjustment (autodetect only) & the 100/133 jumper is disabled (pins removed, 1-2 soldered), so that's the best I can do. I've been tempted to desoldered 1-2 & then solder 2-3 to give me a 133 fsb...then I'd have to unlock the Duron & see what I can get out of it. I've read plenty of reviews about running them at 133 with a lower multiplier. The 1.3 Duron seems to be a different animal than all the rest though...a quick googling turns up more questions than answers...


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