what do you mean spend $2000 on a pc.. ill spell it out for u Item Description Item# Qty * Unit Price Sale Price Total AMD Athlon 64 4000 2.4GHZ 1MB RTL CPUAMD640 $839.99 $839.99 $839.99 ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe NForce AMD939 MLBASU259 $209.99 $209.99 $209.99 KINGSTON 256MB PC3200 DDR400 MEMK256018 $39.99 $39.99 $79.98 Lian Li PC-65 Aluminum PC Case CAS8629 $129.99 $129.99 $129.99 ASUS 16X DVD-ROM BIEGE RTL cdrasu10 $34.99 $34.99 $34.99 MSI NX6600-TD256E 256MB PCI DVI/TV-Out VIDMSI54 $369.99 $369.99 $369.99 SEAGATE 80GB SATA 7200RPM 8MB CACHE HDD80S03 $65.99 $65.99 $65.99 Altec Lansing 251 6 Piece SPKALT251 $69.99 $69.99 $69.99 Linksys Integrated Wireless Pci Card NETLIN015 $49.99 $49.99 $49.99 MICROSOFT RTL WRLS PRO OPTICAL COMBO KBDMIC023 $89.99 $89.99 $89.99 Shipping Method: $14.00 SubTotal: ** $1,954.89

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sarry it coppyed the prices 3 times.. read the last numbers on each price

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Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with YO on this. $800+ for any CPU is a waste. Do you really need an SLI board? There are plenty of excellent non-SLI boards that sell for less than $100. You can get 1GB (2 x 512MB) for only slightly more than what you have listed. $130 for a case? Without a PSU?? You don't even have a PSU on your wish list! Plain DVD-ROM drive?? Why not a burner?? $370 for an MSI 256MB 6600? Newegg sells the exact same card for $150 80GB HDD?? I think you should rethink your configuration. Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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excuse me .. if you read the top post then you will see that i clearly stated that this is not my computer .. i gave them the options they make the calls not me.. this is a local store they dont buy online.. and thank you for reminding me about the psu .. i put it together online for yo

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and another thing is that newegg does not sell the same graphics card for $100 heres the link http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-127-149&depa=0

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That link is to the 6800 card...you originally listed it as "MSI NX6600-TD256E 256MB" which newegg sells for $150 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-127-145&depa=0 You said that you're building this PC for your cousin. Since you apparently know more than him, you should be advising him on what to get. He's spending WAY too much & not getting the best bang for his buck. I also don't see any software listed? That should add another several $100 to the price list, unless you're gonna install pirated software Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 512MB PC3200 Asus Ti4800SE 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro

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'jam' & 'YO' are 100% correct waste of money! You would have to be out of your mind to spend that much on your processor alone. The RAM is a bit pricey too. You could get two sticks of 512(1GB) for only double what you're spending on the 256. It sounds like either you or him didn't do any research. CASE w/ PS http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-196-002&DEPA=1 DRIVES http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=27-152-037&DEPA=1 CPU http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-494&depa=1 HDD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-145-072&depa=1 RAM http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-146-219&DEPA=1 MAINBOARD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-187&depa=1 GPU http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-164-038&DEPA=1 Estimated spending with shipping Total: $850.03 10minutes of research does wonders. That's a pretty good setup for gaming if your cousin is new to building.

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In any hardware market there is a "Sweet spot", where the technology is pretty up-to-date, but not the absolute top-of-the-line so that you're not spending ridiculous amounts. Now, my system is Intel so it's a bit different, but bear with me. I spent too much on a case - $160 for the case and PSU. Anyways... For motherboards, I really liked the ASUS P5GD1 because it offers the new LGA775 and PCI-Express, and yet the price was only $131 CAD. Not top-of-the-line, but it will serve my purposes for the next 4-5 years. For Intel processors, the LGA775 Prescott 3.0GHz (530) seems to be in the sweet spot, at $232 CAD (only $4 than the Socket 478, considerably cheaper than the 3.2GHz (540)). Spending $800 on a CPU is ridiculous. Stepping that down to a 3800+ will probably save you 50% of that price (is the 3800+ $400?), and its performance difference will be negligible unless you're doing REALLY intense graphics rendering and video editing. Even hardcore gaming won't show much in that difference. You pay double the price to get at the top of the game. Stupid, IMO. I decided to get an ASUS GeForce6600 256MB PCIE. $199 CAD. I could have gotten the GT for an additional $30, and in hindsight that would have been a good idea. Whatever, either of these cards is a good investment. Fast, powerful, reliable, up-to-date, affordable. Oh, and get a gig of RAM. 512MB ain't enough for a gaming system, and it's not much more expensive to get a gig. Get a bigger hard drive. Seagate Barracuda 200GB is at an very good price right now. ASUS P5GD1 Pro Intel P4 LGA775 530 @ 3.0GHz 2x 512MB Kingmax DDR400 SDRAM ASUS EN6600/TD GeForce6600 256MB 80GB Seagate SATA 150 OS/programs 200GB Maxtor SATA 150 data LG 16x DVD+/-R

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i agree with the last comment im also trying to buy a computer for myself wheere is alot of issues to it. (my questions is in other post) but don't spend more than 400$ on CPU because it's really stupid idea and vido card should be nvidia 6800 gt 256 mb pci express or so for 390$ or you can buy a cheapper variation use http://www.pricewatch.com to get minimum and average prices on each component. and if you want to impress your relative buy expencive case like asus vento for 140$ you waste extra 60$ or so, but all his friends will be much amazed by case than by extra few CPU GZ's that cost you extra 400$ by the way here is the link to the case http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1760 and this is where you can buy it http://www.pricegrabber.com/search.php?topcat_search=1&form_keyword=asus+vento&topcat_id= where is a golden rule to all computers investments and that is that the total price of the computer and all perhipals should drop each year to as little as possible and wherefor it is better to spend extra 1000$ on 24" lcd screen that does not loose its price and this is health of your eyes and quality, comparing to spendind that 1000$ for extra 2% of CPU/RAM power that will be 500$ less next month and 800$ less in 3 months. good luck have no idea why i came to this planet

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Intel owns AMD hand down. AMD 64 is good. But everything else about AMD sucks and intel p4's from 2.0ghz + are good for reasonable prices and the HT 2.8Ghz + are good for resonable prices but you could spend $450+ for AMD 64.

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AMD 64 is good???? Yes very good the best at gaming!!!!! At the moment amd is better then intel in a year who knows but right now you have to say amd is the leader hands down!!!

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"Intel owns AMD hand down." In things optimized for HT, yes. Everything else, absolutely not. And games aren't typically optimized for games, just high end productivity software like Photoshop CS and the like. "AMD 64 is good. "But everything else about AMD sucks and intel p4's from 2.0ghz + are good" It's foolish to buy anything but Athlon 64 for a performance/gaming PC. I don't see the point in your comment. Athlon 64's DO beat Intel in most games out there rather easily due to the low latency memory controller on die instead of on the motherboard. "but you could spend $450+ for AMD 64." Or you could spend $150 for an Athlon 64 and kick the snot out of a comparably priced Intel CPU in games... http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=19-103-501&DEPA=0 "...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"

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It's kinda like currency exchange... How come I can buy an AMD clocked at 2.2 or an Intel clocked at 3.2 with a twice as high L2 cache and FSB but AMD still wins? They must be doing something right and it's not opinion it's fact.

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5950 ultra 450 core clock 1 gig memory 6800 GT 350 core clock 1 gig memory Just because it looks fast don't make it fast! I even think that the 5700 ultra is 450 core and 1 gig memory. It's not 1/10 of the 6800GT

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Regarding games support for HT - what make you think it is hard to recompile source code for most existing games under new compiler or new directX with HT support, and provide this as a free update to existing (registered?) users. I don't see why it wouldnt happen, and of course it would for the games to come. have no idea why i came to this planet

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How long has Hyperthreading been out? How many games at this point are optimized for it? The difficulty of doing it is irrelevant. If they were going to do it, they'd have done it a lot more by now. Also, I fail to see how Hyperthreading would be as effective for gaming the way it works compared to a lower latency memory controller such as in the Athlon 64. "...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"

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by the way .. i know that $800 is way too much for a cpu.. i had to explain to my cousin for like one hour that it wasnt a good choice and its better spent on ram or a flashy case :).. he didnt care bout the case though :(.. but he did decide for a bit more reasonable comp... heres the specs now.. about $1300 2x 512 memory duel channel 80 gig sata hard drive dvd burner ANTEC SLK2650BQE BLACK W/350W athlon 64 3500 MSI K8N NEO4 PLATINUM/SLI nFORCE4 MSI NX6600-TD256E 256MB Logitech X-230 Black Speaker System MICROSOFT RTL WRLS PRO OPTICAL COMBO Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

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Couple of suggestions... #1. Get a bigger hard drive. You're not gonna pay much more for one! Your system runs better with the drive less than half full, so more free space helps performance, and you're not spending much at all to do it. #2. Get a better power supply with all that power hungry stuff. Thermaltake 480W PSU's are only $60, or get a case with something better already. 350W ain't gonna cut it, especially if you end up going SLI later. #3. Get a 6600GT, not a plain 6600, even if it only has 128M RAM, and make sure it's capable of SLI or you wasted the money on the mobo. The plain 6600 won't be fast enough to make the 256M of video RAM worthwhile; that extra RAM is a marketing ploy, don't fall for it. And another thing, to be absolutely honest, I'd rather have a better video card than a 6600 instead of an Athlon 64 3500. Downgrading the CPU to say a 3000 for about $120 less could allow you to get a better card such as the 6600GT or possibly better if it's in your budget. The video card will make significantly more of a difference. #4. Just FYI, those speakers/sub have WAAAAY too much bass. It's horribly obnoxious if you like a flat response on all frequencies. Some people like that, and some like me HATE it. If you understand what good sound quality is, those AREN'T the speakers to get! (Overrepresenting bass in sound reproduction is by definition distorting what it should sound like, which means it's not good sound.) MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

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