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my cpu heat is 64.5C witch is about 148F witch
alteast i think is to hot (when half idle) but i dont have any stability problems (iv got an old AMD ATHLON 1.4GHZ and im going to upgrade.
my system heat is 25C witch is about 77F... got any ideas if this is a problem?

The Athlon T-bird runs hotter partially due to it's higher default voltage (1.75v). My overclocked 1.33 idles in the 40's & goes into the mid 60's under load...that's considered "normal" for a Tbird.
Your "half idle" temp does seem a bit warm considering your system temp is reported as 25C. It could be because of dust accumulated in the heatsink, or a poorly installed heatsink, or inaccurate temp reporting.

jam talks lots of s**t about me but i will still give my opinion!
im tryin to lower my cpu temp from 62c to 50c. i just need a thermal grease (will get it tomorrow).
as for u
1. check your cpu fan speed. then report back with it
2. if your speed over 3500rpm try takin out the cpu, clean it with some liquir carefully, put some thermal grease on it
3. make sure heatsink is positioned right.peace

1. CPU fan speed has little to do with anything. 5400rpm fans are usually the little 60mmx60mm jobs that shipped with very low end heatsinks in an effort to produce lots of airflow over a barely adequate heatsink. The only time speed matters much is when it falls far below the designed rpm.
2. Makes no sense what-so-ever.
3. His temps already show that it is.Skip

"jam talks lots of s**t about me but i will still give my opinion!"
So far, I've only made a couple of comments about your "expertise"...I'd hardly say I've talked "lots of s**t". But since you continue to post bad advice, I'll do my best to counter that advice.
So far, you've said:
1. CPU fan speed is the "secret" to cooling. You've mentioned this more than once...yet your CPU temp is 62C at idle with a high rpm fan. Not only that, but it appears that you installed your heatsink with NO thermal material!
"im tryin to lower my cpu temp from 62c to 50c. i just need a thermal grease (will get it tomorrow)"
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/2271.html
Here's your answer to a question about applying thermal paste:
"u dont need to. turn on your pc and run it for a wile. if your temps saty below65c its good, if goes over put thermal ccompound"
http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/10198.html
2. 80C is an acceptable CPU temp & that AMD told you so. You even mentioned that you have an e-mail from AMD stating 80C is perfectly OK. How about posting that e-mail for all of us to read?
http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/10200.html
3. DirectX 9.0C is the greatest & advised everyone to try it...even though it comes from an "unofficial" source, not Microsoft. Then you have follow up posts about how DX9C screwed up your system & you're trying to figure out how to remove it.
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/2288.html
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/2319.html
You don't need me to talk "s**t" about you...you're doing just fine on your own

There is no magic formula to getting acceptable temps...actually, it's pretty straight forward. All you need is a decent HSF that's rated for your particular CPU (or better), properly applied thermal interface material between the CPU & heatsink (pad or paste), & adequate case cooling (minimum of one front intake, one rear exhaust).
Follow these instructions for applying paste, regardless of the brand you use:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

i used Hmonitor to monitor my system heat and it reports 4748 rpm for the power fan and it dosnt detect the cpu fan att all iv tryed to open the comp and turned it on and the fan works, but one of the fans is making funny noises and i dont know witch one. if got one power fan, 1 cpu fan, 1 front and 1 back and one on the mobo. and hmonitor warns me thet the core voltage is 1.81V (duuno what that means).

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