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ok so i've been on this site trying to look for anything to make my piece of crap computer better i tryed by having people suggest ram upgrades to complete upgrading to who knows anyways I very intresting in "Overclocking my processor" but what i dont understand is will it really make that much of a difference i have a compaq presario 7469
equiped with an AMD K6-2 (which runs at 500 MHz not 400 and not 450)now i've looked for tutorials and explanations and all i was able to understand is that bus speed times multiplier = overall CPU speed now if i have an alrader 500 Mhz processor how far can i puch it and will it really make that much of a diffrence and do i need to buy a new heatsink what ever that is, im really lost i just want a faster computer that wont lag with my little programs like RPG maker and MS word (also note for those that dont know i can just buy a new motherboard or CPU as my computer is made by COMPAQ so everything will only run with COMPAQ materials more or less so thats out of the questions thanks alot
PS. a question out of context is running a CPU Stress test on K6-2 safe cause thats what I'm doing at this very minute
Since it's a compaq, brand name computer, therefore you can't overclock it... And by running windows 2000, I highly suggest you upgrade to at least 256MB RAM.. 64MB is the minimal for win2k resulting lots of disk swapping....
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You could try clock gen program, but that with that version of the K6-2 will not overclock. Earlier K6-2 processors that were 300mhz could overclock ok, but once AMD went to the CTX chip on the 450mhz and above the overclocking ablity was almost non excistant, because the chip itself ran even hotter for starters then the last versions and the lack of L2 cache really makes this chip useless to overclock in the first place, because there is very litle or no preformance increase with a chip that doesn't have any L2 cache.
You are pretty much dead in the water in terms of overclocking that chip due to heat reasons and lack of L2 cache to see any kind of preformance.
If you had any other processor then i'd say use clock gen to see if you can increase it.
So to answer your question. No you will not see any diff.
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The advice above is totally wrong---You have quite a nice board to overclock---you have the multiplyer/fsb and voltage adjustments available to you----You also have the option of running the k6-2+ series of cpu`s which will give you 3 levels of cache-----here are the specs for your machine----http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=softwareCategory&product=94485&docname=c00034127 --You should upgrade your ram and look for a 2.0v k6-2+ cpu around 475-500mhz and you should have no trouble overclocking this up to 600 with a voltage of 2.1 ----------------Good luck
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The advice I gave him is 100% correct. There is nothing wrong about it. We are talking K6-2 not K6-2+ big diff. I suggest you re-read the topic at hand before commenting on someone elses post.
"K6-2 desktop" chips on the CTX chip are almost non-overclockable. Take advice from someone that owned an AMD k6-2 processor at 500mhz. Also do a google search you will also notice that these chips aren't worth overclcoking.
furthermore why would he spend 40 or 50 dollars on an k6-2+ in which they are still going for that is 6 years just to only to get it maxed out at 650mhz tops???? That's throwing your money away.
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Since it's a compaq, brand name computer, therefore you can't overclock it...
This is totally incorrect, he has adjustments to voltage fsb and the multi.
furthermore why would he spend 40 or 50 dollars on an k6-2+....
I just bought a k6-2+ 575 for $16.00 on ebay including shipping. I dont think thats an awfull lot to spend, but then again maybe you can get him a better computer for $16...
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Since it's a compaq, brand name computer, therefore you can't overclock it...
This is a silly statement, yes newer compaq cannot be overclocked through bios or jumpers but to just say that compaqs cannot be overclocked is totally wrong. This board is quite nice for overclocking and since all he would need is a cpu upgrade I think the 20 or 30 dollars is more than worth it.
Not everyone needs a fast computer, if your not a game player a 600mhz comp would do just fine...
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overclocking to 600mhz should not be much of an issue with a HSF and thermal paste. and he is right ^^^ newer OEM machines cant o/c but the old ones like S7 and SS7 still have all the jumpers there.
128mb of RAM runs 2K alright, but 192mb or 256mb is recommended. either way, i recommend a RAM upgrade. try eBay, they have PC100 SDRAM for nickels and dimes (figuratively speaking, of course)
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So you spend 15 or 20 dollars on a processor that is 6 years old that doesn't serve a purpose as in preformance increase in which there isn't that much more improvement over the regualr AMD K6-2? I got an idea take that 20 bucks and save up for a new pc instead of buying a 6 year old processor.
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I agree with Cobra_R on this & I basically made similar statements to kageaberzger when he posted a question in the hardware forum. You already have a K6-2/500..."upgrading" the CPU would be a complete waste of money.
Your performance problem lies in your memory (or lack of)...64MB RAM is pathetic. Here's the same link I posted in the other forum. You don't have to buy this RAM, but you can use the info as a guide when shopping for used RAM:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Compaq%2BPresario&mfr=Compaq&tabid=AM&model=Presario+7469&submit=Go
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His only other option besides upgrading would be a new computer which will cost at least $250 or more as all that can be used is the cd and floppy. From what I can gather from his post money is an issue. My point is and was, to tell someone there computer cannot do something because this is your guess well thats not why people come to this forum.I too have an idea, state the facts and let the person decide what they would like to do.
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Ok, what can a AMD K6-2+ OC to 600mhz processor possibly do over a K6-2 500mhz? Honestly an extra 100 mhz from an AMD K6-2+ OC to 600mhz will have little or no preformance advantages over an K6-2 500mhz. There is the facts. You are talking a 6 year old processor in 2006 500 or 600mhz for todays program demands isn't going to make any sort of diff in preformance.
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You're missing the point. The major drawback with this system is the fact that it only has 64MB of memory.
FACT: Upgrading to 192MB (64 + 128), 320MB (64 + 256), or 448MB (64 + 128 + 256) would provide a significant performance boost.
FACT: Upgrading the CPU without upgrading the RAM would be a waste of time & money.
OPINION: If the RAM upgrade was done 1st, I think he'd realize that a CPU upgrade is totally unnecessary.
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sorry Cobra, that was directed at wemby089...I had my reply sitting there for a while before I confirmed it
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jam is correct here...a reasonable amount of memory is a necessity. It is not a luxury.
The three machines at work that I've touched lately are PIII's/Celerons of 550, 650, and 744Mhz all running off a server and all running W2KPro. All three of these are fully updated, run IE6 fully updated, various editions of MS Office Professional, and the latest editions of the usual utilities, security and user apps. These machines live a very hard life but all perform well.
They perform well and consistently do their job because of the 256Mb of memory in each rig.
The last K6-2 I oc'd was a 400 that ran like a watch at 550Mhz. Benchmarks with 32Mb PC66 were nearly identical. An old 128Mb pc133 chip replaced the original 32Mb stick and benchmarks went through the roof. Visible performance and "feel" also increased dramatically. Two years later, that machine is still in daily service and my friend will "run it 'till it dies". That says a lot when he can buy a pretty sweet machine down the street for 299 bucks and join the 21st century.
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Im in agreement with the RAM suggestion. I have a k6-2 533 and it ran horribly with 64mb of memory, I upped it to 256MB and slapped Elive linux on it and it runs just as quick as my p3 733MHz machine.
Nothing's broken until you choose not to fix it.
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I just upgraded a Cyrix M II 250MHz from 64MB of memory to 256MB. It runs W2kpro. It's pretty snappy now!
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The true advantage of going to a K6-2+ would be the 128K on die L2 memory cache. That is what makes the + worth spending a few dollars on. But only a few.
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