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hi all,
I have an Athlon xp 2000+ on a ECS-K7S5A Pro.
and I put together an athlon xp2600+ system on a ECS-K7VTA3 for a friend.Both have 512 of 3200 RAM (400)
Temps are ok-low (they're under 40C, that's fairly good, right?)
I want to overclock them...I've been accumulating information but haven't really had the time to sit down to it yet...I had a minute the other day and tried to jump mine from 133 to 166 fsb. The system went blank on startup, nothing, not even able to get into the bios program to change it back. Had to manually clear CMOS. I'm gonna get a chance to work on them soon and I wanted to seek some last minute advice before I begin. Everything is appreciated and nothing is too elementary. If anyone has a spare minute, and the desire, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
C.

You'll have to lower your multiplier to keep the CPU speed close to it's default speed...that should get you to boot up...then you can experiment from there.
For instance, your 2000+ runs at 1667mhz (12.5 x 133mhz/266DDR FSB)...if you just raise the FSB to 166 without touching the mutiplier, you'd be clocking at 2083mhz...that's quite a jump in one shot (25% increase). You should lower the multiplier to 10 & raise the FSB to 166mhz, that would clock you at 1667mhz & your system "should" boot...then you can play around from there...try it at 10.5x, 11.0x, etc & see what you can get out of it.

Thanks Jam,
I just tried CPUCool to manipulate via software. That seems to be working great.
I would like to ask two questions though:
1-Is a software OC as good (essentially equal to) a more physical bios oc? (if they're not, aside from one being after the fact, is there a drawback to the software method?)
2-I understand that the only way to change the multiplier in my situation is by physically altering the cpu (because my m.b. is set to cpu-configured multiplier). Is that worth it for me to do if I can just use the software o.c.? note: without any difficulty I brought the cpu core to 2083.4 MHz (166.6 x12.5) This is assuming that the software readout is an accurate depiction of an actual increase.

Sorry, I've read a lot about that board but have never worked with one...I didn't realize that you can't change the multiplier. The ECS-K7S5A was (& still is) very popular, & there are 3rd party overclocking BIOS's that are available...Cheepoman is one, another is called Honey X. Here's some links that might help:
http://www.lejabeach.com/ECS/ez.html
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/ecs/k7s5abios/cheepobios.htm
http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/setfsb/k7s5a/list-k7s5a.htm

That's cool, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
What about my first question: How does a software o.c. (like CPUCool) compare to an OC done off the bios (like with Honey)? And is the software version an accurate reflection of actual performance> Either your own experience or what you've heard is cool.
Thanks.
C

I've never had to use any of the software OC'ing programs...but as far as I know, they work. If you're in doubt, download CPUZ & see what it tells you. It'll give you all sorts of info about your configuration...including CPU clock speed, multiplier, FSB, voltage, motherboard, etc. Here's the download site...
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

How come your CPU temps are so low, commodore. My palamino 2000+ (stock) runs at 45C with a Thermaltake volcano 11+ running at full speed, 4800rpm (solid copper heatsink and 80mm fan) and a thermaltake xaser 2000+ case, 7 80mm fans and it's completely aluminium. Can it effect your temps if you have to much thermal compound.

I don't know. and I don't know.
I didn't do anything special. It's a $10 fan, it's variable and I have it at 3300 rpms. As a matter of fact I just ordered a fan that goes down to 1300rpms to lower the volume (haven't tried yet cause it's in the mail) right now the cpu temp is 37C, but that's in idle (with very little o.c.) I don't know why it's low, i wasn't even sure that was low! Yours doesn't sound bad at all. Think I read you need to worry if it starts to reach 60? Anyway, if you want to oc and your temp creeps up a lot more, you can always take the lid off the case.And i don't know about the use of excessive compound. I wouldn't think so, unless it's like everywhere. But we'll wait until someone who knows better comes along.
:) Also, i've read that you're doing real well temperature wise if you're about 20C over the ambient (room) temperature.

Also Andrew,
From your setup I'm sure you already know to keep your pc raised on a cool level plane, as opposed to say the carpet. also fyi i mentioned my idle but in most all circumstances I don't creep past 40, if it helps...Really I don't know why. Of course, the inside of my case is clean (no dust), and i have the usual in/out case fan. I have a cheap case with only a small amount of ventillation which was originaly on the bottom, i switched the two sides and put the perforated side up, on the cpu side so heat can better escape (heat travelling up...) Hope it all helps...And you know you can o.c. that bad boy with no work at all using CPUCool (or CPUFSB) and need not worry about doing anyghing physical on the board if you don't want to.
Cheers.

ANDREW,
Hopefully you'll revisit this post:
you should check out this link:
http://www.gamers-depot.com/guides/cooling_guide/001.htm
if you go through it a few pages you also come to a section that suggest you should only put on a small amount of compound...I put on way more than that. of course, i didn't put on so much that it overflows...
hope the link is useful.
-C

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