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Faulty CPU(s)
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Name: johnvining
Date: March 23, 2006 at 17:46:54 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s)OS: Windows XP Home (when itCPU/Ram: AMD Athalon/512 |
Comment: Yesterday i woke up to a computer that still had all of the fans on but no image and the mouse + keyboard were not receiving power. I have since tried switching the monitors but both monitors responded the same. Today I borrowed another socket A CPU from a friend and put it in, booted. The computer booted to the bios and i decided to turn off the computer to reinstall the heatsink. When I rebooted after I had installed the heatsink it did the same thing as it had done before. The CPU i got from my friend was one that he had found in some old computer. Is my motherboard eating CPU's? Are both the CPU's ive put in there busted and a new Socket A will fix it? Any ideas are helpful! Thanks!
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Response Number 1
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Name: jam
Date: March 23, 2006 at 18:34:40 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)"The computer booted to the bios and i decided to turn off the computer to reinstall the heatsink." What does that mean? Why did it have to be reinstalled? If you did a half-assed install just to test it, you may have fried the CPU...if only takes a few seconds if the heatsink isn't installed correctly
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Response Number 2
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Name: johnvining
Date: March 23, 2006 at 18:39:40 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)At first I didnt even put the heat sink on. I booted it up, saw that it was working and turned it off. I put the heatsink back on and then it didnt do anything. Inbetween the two boots i felt the CPU and it didnt feel hot at all.
When I look at the CPU from the side with the pins in it there is a small brown spot in the middle where there are no pins. Does this mean the CPU is fried?
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Response Number 3
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Name: jam
Date: March 23, 2006 at 19:16:13 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)You can NOT run a socket A CPU without a heatsink, not even for one second! You fried it, dude. The brown spot says it all...
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Response Number 4
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Name: jackbomb
Date: March 23, 2006 at 19:50:13 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)"You can NOT run a socket A CPU without a heatsink, not even for one second!" Actually, you can... watch the amdburn.zip file (2.9 MB) http://www.hwsw.hu/letoltes3.php3?path=/old/cestlavie
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Response Number 5
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Name: TMP-Man
Date: March 23, 2006 at 20:20:46 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)"Actually, you can..." He has a Athlon CPU socket A... not athlon XP... check this urself... http://www.tomshardware.com/2001/09/17/hot_spot/page4.html Download the video if you want, and look closly at the screen... TMP-ManAsus P5P800-SE
P4 506 2.66Ghz @ 4100Mhz 1.525v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 2000RPM FAN
1024MB DC Corsair DDR400
40GB 5400RPM/120GB 7200RPM HD
128MB Radoen 9500 mod 9700 @ 360/585
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Response Number 6
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Name: jam
Date: March 23, 2006 at 20:22:17 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)OK, if you have a socket A board that has thermal protection built-in, & provided you have it configured properly in the BIOS, it can be done. I stand corrected. Obviously johnvining doesn't have this feature on his board, or he has it disabled. Regardless, his CPU is toast.
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Response Number 8
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Name: jam
Date: March 24, 2006 at 08:33:54 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)"It doesnt matter if you have a socket a cpu, you should at least have the logic to put on a hsf!" With some CPUs, you could run a quick boot test without a HSF & there'd be very little risk involved...socket 7 for example. And it can probably be done with a P4 & A64 (both have built-in thermal protection circuitry), but it's definitely not adviseable. However, a socket A CPU is NOT one that will survive being tested this way.
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Response Number 9
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Name: jackbomb
Date: March 24, 2006 at 11:50:26 Pacific
Subject: Faulty CPU(s) |
Reply: (edit)I stand corrected also; I thought thermal protection was built into the Socket A CPU.
"With some CPUs, you could run a quick boot test without a HSF & there'd be very little risk involved...socket 7 for example." Don't forget Slot 1! Certain S1 CPUs (The older ones with the thermal plates, not the newer SECC2 cartridges) will also survive about a minute without a HSF. Yeah, that bit of info was totally unessecary, but Slot 1 is my b*tch; I had to promote it! LOL
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