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Hi,
I would like to know from you guys if all the dual core processors that come out will all support 64 bit computing.
Will we get some dual core that dont support 64 bit, or will all the dual core processors support 64 bit?
I would also like to know if motherboards supporting dual core cpus would come with agp slots in the future too.
Thanking you,Sarosh
Refurbished AOpen 6600GT 108$
Yes, all dual core processors are all and continue to be 64bit.
As for having an agp slot on a motherboard that supports dual core processors, the answer is yes and no.
Intel 945 and 955x motherboards that support dual core processors will only have pci express slots.
AMD 939 motherboards that support dual core processors come with an agp or pci express on them. Now the trick to all this is to figure out if then AMD 939 motherboards that uses an agp slot (since those are the older 939 motherboards) will support dual core processors and that you will have to find out through that motherboards website. I'm thinking most would, by doing a Bios update, but you should make sure anyhow just incase.
939 motherboards that have pci express on them support dual core processors either right off the bat or by a bios update.
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Thanks very much cobra,
Much appreciated. It seems that it would be hard for me to get an intel dual core board with an agp slot.
Thans again,
Sarosh
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Yea because the only motherboards that support dual core for intel are the 945 and 955x and all of those boards come with pci express. Your only choice to get a motherboard that can support a dual core processor with an agp on it is an older socket 939 AMD motherboard with a Bios update.
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Hi Cobra,
You have given me the exact information I was looking for. Thanks very much for that. It seems that my prospect of combining my agp card with dual core processors is not that great.
I am in need of some advice, and I would appreciate it very much if you took the time to respond to my situation.I am currently running a 1.7GHz P4 on an Asus P4V533MX motherboard, with an 6600GT agp card.
Currently, I have two options:1) Stick with my current system untill it lasts me, or untill it become unsuitable to any games or applications in the future, and then go for a total upgrade.
2) Purchase a 3.0GHz single core, 64bit processor and a motherboard with an agp as well as a pcie slot from my local hardware guy. He is giving me a fair price on that.
With the second option I have the advantage of having both a pcie slot for the future, as well as an agp slot for my 6600Gt, as well as a 64bit processor.
The only technology I will be missing out on is dual core.I cant seem to make up my mind in this regard, because processor technology changes so fast, that the single core 3.0GHz processor too may get outdated soon.
Please give me your advice on this. Is it safe to buypass dual core processors? Will all the future applications and games be optimized for dual core, and will they run slow on my single core 3.0Ghz 64bit processor.
Any advice you can give will be appreciated, because I am totally confused.
Thanking you very much,
Sarosh.
Sarosh
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Cobra_R,
Before getting too deeply involved, you may wanna review some of the advice he's been given over the past couple of weeks:
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/5638.html
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/5692.html
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/5641.html
http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/5795.html
http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/12407.html
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Get the LGA 775 945 motherboard with the Pentium 4 3ghz 630 EM64T. That way you will be able to upgrade to a dual core later on with that motherboard.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
2GB Dual Channel DDR 3200
Nvidia 6800GT
SATA II 250gig 7200rpm 8mb cache
Gigabyte Nforce 4 SLI
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Thanks Cobra,
Unfortunatley, the choice available here is not as wide as you might have there. I cant pick the the motherboard that I want, I can only choose from the options that my local hardware guys offer me.
Anyway, thanks very much.
I think I am going to stick with my current setup and upgrade to a dual core system after a year or more.
They say that the onboard graphics chips on the pentium dual core processors are powerful enough to run doom3 and quake4. You think this might be true or is it just a hype?Sarosh
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You mean the intel GMA 950? I mean yeah it can run doom 3 but not very good. Onboard graphics cards aren't made for those types of intense 3D games. For starters they rely on the motherboards ram which not only uses your systems cpu but it also has to go through an extra cycle to get the memory on the motherboard, unlike a graphics card where it has it's own set of ram where it can acces it directly.
Onboards graphics card are good for typical use and nothing more. If you are looking to play intense 3D games on your pc like doom 3 then stay clear of an onboard graphics card.
Even the new Nvidia 6150 motherboards can only handle last generations games and that onboard graphics card is prob the best onboard graphics card to date.
I don't like onboard graphics cards personally on a desktop because of the stuff I do on my pc which is graphical stuff that demands a decent graphics card to handle it.
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I agree with you totally. I tried to explain this to my hardware guy, but it seems that graphics cards are just not important to people here, even hardware dealers.
I told him that the memory of my card could be as high as 1.2GHz and the core could be 565MHz, but he didnt seem to understand what I was saying. I dont think any onboard card can come close to these speeds.Anyway, I read some stuff on the intel website, and it says that "dual core is the first step towards multi-core". I guess we will be seeing multicore processors within few years. If that is the case, I think it is better to wait than to rush into dual core.
Sarosh
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a good idea would be to go for
1) Stick with my current system untill it lasts me, or untill it become unsuitable to any games or applications in the future, and then go for a total upgrade.
however the 1.7GHz P4 is a bit slow and you wont be getting the full power out of the 6600GT so i would say just get a upgraded CPU that will go in the mob you have now, then that system will last you for ages
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I am looking for a faster cpu for my system, but am not having much luck. I am finding some socket 478 celeron processors that might work with my m/b.
How important do you think the cache of the processor is for gaming?
I found a celeron that would work in my m/b of 2.8GHz speed but only 128Kb cache. That is half the cache of my current cpu, but it is very much faster than my current 1.7GHz.
What do you think is more important for gaming, cache of speed?Sarosh
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multi core processors are allready hear, the one in the xbox 360 has 3 cores and runs at 3.2 Ghz I think, I assume it will be available to public in a year or two.
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