How will they cool these things?: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20040614_163730.html Just a thought.

I'm gonna take a wild guess or two here: Guess #1: AMD doesn't have any real problems manufacturing this chip. Guess #2: If I'm correct about #1, they likely have no heat problems with the Opteron running on air. AMD seems to be (if you believe the press) the one company that is not having 90nm problems and if that is true, they may be onto something that will get them through the 65nm production process. We're thinking of AMD's so called heat problems of the past just like we're still stuck on the "more Mhz is better" thing: Guess #3: The computing world is changing and we need to open our minds to a chip that just, day in and day out, works well and requires little or no special treatment to do so...kinda like a Celeron workstation that will do it all. Guess 4: Even though it looks like AMD has an edge with 90 and 65nm, Intel will figure it out too...and it won't take them long. Disclaimer: These are my personal opinions and I may sober up and change my mind tomorrow. Skip

good epilogue skip. no comment myself until tomorrow

What? Gotta date? Skip

btw cooling for servers and other machines that go into specially air-conditioned / unbelievably loud machine rooms, is rarely a problem. You can cool almost anything with a loud enough fan and a low ambient temp.

"These are my personal opinions and I may sober up and change my mind tomorrow." I just liked the sentiment. When we're most sober we are unfortunately least ruminating and when we're least sober we are unfortunately most entropic. One more reason why someone needs to invent the Star Trek drink "synthehol"

Yeah, doesn't hurt to loosen up on occasion. Even sober, I feel chip manufacturing technology is moving in the right direction and when they get it sorted, cooling won't be much of an issue. In the meantime the press has something new to write about and, on occasion, the panic an article causes is pretty humorous. Skip