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Name: Cobra_R
For all those pc review sites that post nothing but AMD getting it's you know what handed to them by Intel this time around, we get the messege. But cut AMD some slack will you? I mean, the current AMD cpu design is a year and a half old. It's not like AMD unleashed a new processor design at the same time Intel did with its Core 2 Duo. I mean, makeing a fair review would be like comparing AMD's current cpu design with the Pentium D 8xx series considering both of those cpu's came out at the sametime.
I just don't get the logic of trying to compare the Intel Core 2 Duo to AMD's current cpu design and reviewing it like AMD's current cpu design came out at the sametime as Intel's Core 2 Duo did. I mean, I didn't expect AMD to continue on beating Intel with a cpu design that's a year and a half old.
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yeap, as i posted on previous topic, compare their processoers of the same generation.
kinda sad for intel, they must do a total new designing, (not re-designing), to beat current AMD platform.Athlon 64 2800+ @ 2.63 Ghz Stock Cooling
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what i said is in general term not in a specific case.
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No holes in it if you are looking at it the way that I am in terms of some of these review sites hammer AMD like their current cput design came out yesterday to compete with Intel new Core Duo. That would be like Reviewing a 2006 Expedition based on the 2003 Design vs a complete redesign of the 2007 Chevy Tahoe. Of course the Tahoe is going to be better and have newer technology then the 2003 Expedition. Like AMD same concept the newer technology normally out does the old it's simple.
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Well it may not be that simple if you consider the fact that the 2007 Chevy Tahoe will cost at least 35% less than your 2003 based 06 Expedition, gets noticably better mpg and comes with more cargo space & towing capacity.
If you still think the 2007 Tahoe is just a hype then I have nothing more to say.
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That's my point. I didn't say the Tahoe is hype i'm saying in that exp the 2007 Tahoe is a newer design then the 06 Expedition so it's going to be better and have the latest technology then the 3 1/2 year old Expedition design. Like Intel it's obv going to have the edge over the AMD because it's new chip is 1 1/2 newer then the X2. If you wanted to make a fair review then make one when both designs come out at the same time and not compare the 2 when one design is a few years older then the other like if that 1 1/2 year old design came out yesterday like a lot of these review sites are. That's what I mean by cutting AMD some slack. I have only found a few review sites that give AMD the benifit of the doubt by saying. AMD current cpu design is showing its age when compared to the Core 2 Duo design and that's a fair and logical review, because it's showing that one of the main reasons why the X2 falls behind the Core 2 Duo processor is its age.
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You keep emphasizing new chip design over and over as if that is the single key to a successful CPU campaign & that is where you are loosing me.
New design does not always automatically translate into effective performance results - a brief review of Intel's product line performance resume for the last few years is a hint.
CPU's do not age like people do, the index of work a P4 or an AXP does in 2004 is the same index it will do in 2014.
When given the option between an older design based product that really outperforms a spanking new chip - 99% (you account for the 1% differential....;-) of users will pick the older chip over the newer one 100% of the time, throw some highly competitive pricing in the mix and die-hards like yourself might even become an apostate...........LOL
There is a reason that people use weight class to organize boxing matches, you try the age method and see the outcome.
For example Intels Core 2 Duo (E6700) easily outperform the Athlon 64 FX-62 over a range of application and the FX-62 is a very very recent CPU from AMD, not only that but it'll eat several CPUs both from Intel and AMD for snacks prior to being humbled by the E6700 or lets imply the much cheaper, easily & successfully overclocked E6600.
AMD DOES NOT NEED ANY SLACKS!!!
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I'm not saying that. I'm saying that more times then not something newer will outpreform something older and that is true with just about anything regardless if it's eletronics or not. Now I didn't say that everything newer will outpreform thuings that are older but more likely then not newer things will preform better then older things, Saftey in cars is just one of the many examples of that.
The FX-62 is still based on a year and a half old cpu design, It is built on the same core design that the X2's were built on last May of 2005. The Core 2 duo is a completely new design of Intel chips and not just an core update like the Pentium D 8xx was to the 9xx.
Cpu's age when it comes to preformance. The newer and more complex a program is the more preformance that cpu has to have in it or else it will not preform well. Comparing humans with age and cpus with age are two diff aging processes.
No i'm talking cpus on the same level, i'm not talking a budget cpu vs an mainstream cpu, but even then each cpu in it's class more likely then not will outpreform the generation before it.
Sports age has an effect on peoples response times. You ask any boxer, football player, baseball player, MMA fighter and they will all tell you the same. The older you get the slower the responce time you have then say when you were 20's or 30's. That is basicly a proven fact thus is why you don't see to many sports players play past 40. If you don't have a quick enough responce time in many of those sports that I mentioned then you are as good as done.
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