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Name: beachnut
Date: August 10, 2007 at 03:30:51 Pacific
OS: xp home
CPU/Ram: 512
Comment:

My PC came back from repair and I noticed they'd replaced the 2.1ghz AMD Athlon (clock speed showed 160) with a 1.8ghz AMD Sempron (clock spped shows 200). They replaced the mboad as well. By doing this have they downgraded my PC (smaller processor) or is it actually better (clock speed).



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: August 10, 2007 at 11:32:27 Pacific
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"replaced the 2.1ghz AMD Athlon (clock speed showed 160) with a 1.8ghz AMD Sempron (clock spped shows 200)"

You need to clarify which CPUs you're talking about. I'm guessing that they're socket A? And what do you mean by 160 & 200...is that the FSB setting? The clock speed(s) are 2.1GHz & 1.8GHz. Obviously the CPU was downgraded.

Try running CPU-Z to identify your CPU, socket type & clock settings:

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php


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Response Number 2
Name: beachnut
Date: August 10, 2007 at 18:37:29 Pacific
Reply:

The 160Mhz and 200Mhz refer to the Bus Speeds.

So am I right to complain at being downgraded, even if the bus speed is higher ?


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: August 10, 2007 at 20:51:13 Pacific
Reply:

I still don't know what CPUs you're talking about! Obviously you don't either. That's why it's important that you run CPU-Z & post back with the results.

I'm guessing the Athlon is a socket A Athlon XP 3000+ Barton. However, there are two different versions. One runs at 2.1GHz with the FSB at 200MHz, the other runs at 2.167GHz with the FSB at 166MHz. There are no CPUs that run at 160MHz FSB....at least not by default.

And there are no socket A Semprons that run at 1.8GHz, however, the Sempron 2600+ Tbred runs at 1.833GHz with the FSB at 166MHz. There are no socket A Semprons that run at 200MHz...they're all designed to run at 166MHz.

Like I said, you have to clarify what you're asking about. I'm just guessing what you have....


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Response Number 4
Name: Dusk666
Date: August 11, 2007 at 02:55:39 Pacific
Reply:

Yes your CPU has been downgraded, you should complain to where ever it is you got your computer repaired as they should have given you parts of an equal spec if they are replacing any parts.


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Response Number 5
Name: beachnut
Date: August 11, 2007 at 04:39:44 Pacific
Reply:

This is what CPU-Z says:
AMD Sempron 3000+
Code name: Palermo
Brand id:38
Package: Socket 754
Core Speed: 1799.6MHz
Bus Speed: 200.0Mhz

I don't have the old processor but have an old screen dump from Belarc advisor showing it was a 2.1Ghz AMD Athlon XP. Under the main circuit board it shows Bus clock 166 Mhz.

Maybe I shouldn't be looking at the bus clock and just the CPU size ?


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: August 11, 2007 at 06:36:11 Pacific
Reply:

OK, that helps immensely.

Your system WAS upgraded (sort of). You went from a socket A to a S754. However, the Sempron 3000+ wasn't the greatest CPU choice because it only has 128k L2 cache. Your Athlon XP had 512k L2. Even so, due to the differences in technology, your new system *should* be an improvement. Plus you could always upgrade the CPU to an Athlon64. The A64 3000+ or 3200+ is selling for about $30 these days.

What's the make/model of your motherboard? The Palermo is a decent overclocker. You should have no problem cranking it up to 2.25GHz (9 x 250MHz).


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Response Number 7
Name: beachnut
Date: August 12, 2007 at 06:03:18 Pacific
Reply:

It's a Foxconn 760GX Motherboard (skt 754). CPU-Z is saying it's a Winfast 760GXK8MC with SiS 760GX chipset. Thanks for the help.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: August 12, 2007 at 11:18:43 Pacific
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"with SiS 760GX chipset"

Yikes! For the most part, SiS based boards suck.


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