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Name: briang
Date: August 19, 2003 at 15:38:54 Pacific
OS: Windows 98 / 2000
CPU/Ram: PIII 800 /866 640MB
Comment:

I purchased a PIII 866/256/133/1.7v (MALAYSIA) at a computer fair recently. I intended it to be a modest upgrade to the CPU I have at present in a home built ABIT VH6T APOLLO 133A based PC (with soft menu). I intended just to swap with the existing CPU, a PIII 800/256/133/1.7v (COSTA RICA), which I intended to use in another computer. I was dismayed when the computer would not boot (into the bios setup) at all. The monitor remained blank. I replaced the previous CPU and the computer booted.

I next put the PIII 866 in a slot 1 to socket 370 converter card which I placed in an Abit BX6 REV 2 motherboard based PC. It was on autodetect and when it booted up it was identified as a Celeron 566MHz with the FSB at 66MHz. This equates to a multiplier factor of 8.5. This CPU is
supposed to be a PIII 866MHz with a (fixed) multiplier of 6.5 and FSB of 133 producing the 866MHz. I booted into Windows 98 and ran the Intel CPU ID utility. It confirmed the Celeron 566 MHz rating, which it said was also the expected rating. I next set the jumpers on the the Slocket III converter card to the fixed 133MHz FSB rating and rebooted. The BX6 REV 2 PC would also not boot at 133FSB. I next set the jumpers on te converter card to produce a 100MHz FSB and rebooted. The PC did boot and the CPU was identified as a Celeron running at 850MHZ (meaning a 8.5 multiplier). After Windows booted I ran the Intel CPU ID utility again and it confirmed the CPU was a CELERON
running at 850MHz but that it was now overclocked and the expected rating was 566MHz at 66MHz FSB.

I decided to try again with the VH6T PC. However before replacing the existing PIII 800MHz cpu with the PIII 866MHz, I set the FSB speed in the softmenu to 66MHz. I then shut down and changed over the CPU's. This time the computer booted and the CPU was identified again as a CELERON (running at) 566MHz. The Intel utility confirmed the processor was a Celeron running at 566MHz and was ruuning at the expected speed. Finally I set the FSB to 100MHZ in the bios and rebooted. The CPU was identified as a Celeron (running at) 850MHz, which the Intel utility confirmed, as well as reaffirming that it was overclocked at this speed. I should be very gratefull if anyone could offer an explanation as to why a CPU with Pentium III 866MHz (printed)on it,(multiplier 6.5), is identified as a Celeron 566MHz (multiplier 8.5). I sent an email to Intel and was directed to some links, but these did not seem relevant. Thank you.



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Response Number 1
Name: Real_Cool
Date: August 19, 2003 at 16:26:31 Pacific
Reply:


sSpec Number
SL4NW

Processor Frequency
566.00 MHZ

CPUID String
0686

Package Type
370 pin PPGA FC-PGA1

Core Voltage
1.700

Bus Speed
66 MHz

Thermal Guideline
11.9W

Core Stepping
cC0

Thermal Spec
90°C

L2 Cache Size
128 KB

Manufacturing Technology
0.18 micron

L2 Cache Speed
566.00 MHZ

Bus/Core Ratio
8.6
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sSpec Number
SL5DX

Processor Frequency
866.00 MHZ

CPUID String
068A

Package Type
370 pin PPGA FC-PGA1

Core Voltage
1.750

Bus Speed
133 MHz

Thermal Guideline
26.1W

Core Stepping
cD0

Thermal Spec
80° C

L2 Cache Size
256 KB

Manufacturing Technology
0.18 micron

L2 Cache Speed
866.00 MHZ

Bus/Core Ratio
6.5


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: August 19, 2003 at 17:30:14 Pacific
Reply:

uh...maybe someone pulled the old switch-a-roo?


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Response Number 3
Name: Adam
Date: August 19, 2003 at 19:52:55 Pacific
Reply:

What does the alledged "P3 866" look like? Does it have a small rectangular purple/blue core on it, with a green PCB base, or does it have a rather large square silver core with a black PCB base?


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Response Number 4
Name: briang
Date: August 20, 2003 at 17:57:30 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for your replies. Actually the CPU SL No is SL4CB which I did check on the Intel Spec Finder List at their website. It seemed to co-relate with what is on the black identity strip at the bottom of the CPU. As regards the "old switch-a-roo" suggestion, this could explain it all, but would it have been done for a single (or very small number of) CPU('s)? I have not read, either on the net or in computer magazines, of any fraudulent PIII's circulating, which surely would have come to light well before now, as the CPU has been out a while. It all looks genuine enough. Apart from the country of origin (Malaysia) it looks exactly like my PIII 800 (country of origin Costa Rica) viz. green PCB base with blue/purple core approx. 12mm x 10mm in
size. I suppose there could have been the occasional genuine labelling mistake at the factory?
Regards briang.


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