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I got the parts for building a pc, not put together yet and i'm looking at optimal temperatures I need to shoot for.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks in advance!I have:
AMD 2500+ - Barton
ASUS A7N8X mobo512mb DDR 400 pc3200 crucial ram - i should've got kingston because asus recomends that and not crucial...hope it will still run at 400Mhz ddr...do you think it will ? the memory selector at crucial.com chose it.
XFX GeForce4 Ti4200 w/128mb memory and a fan on it
K7 Volcano 11+ xaser heatsink
modem - latter
raid card - latter
1 fan power supply
1- 120mm fan in side of case
2-120mm fans, 1 in front bottom & 1 in top rear
1-80mm fan i will put in the rear close to the processor to suck air out
1-80mm fan that i'm gonna rig to the power supply so the air will move faster there and through it to cool the ps betterI was going to position all the fans to suck air out of the case but i also like the idea of sucking air in with the 120mm front bottom and spitting it out at the top rear 120mm. But it is soooo dusty in my room the surfaces of furniture look like a dust storm hit. And since i have a thermaltake volcano 11+ and some arctic silver 3 i was just thinking to make all the fans suck air out of the case.
What do you all think ?
(The 7 fans in the Thermaltake Xaser super tower cases all suck air out, i don't have one of those beautiful cases YET) but the box i got i like and i'll use here
Thanks alot !
That is the main idea with most cases....intake air in from the front/side and exhaust out the back. Some may also use a blowhole setup where you have an exhaust fan on through the top of the case, but personally, I dont think it does too much.
You are obviously not worried about noise with that many fans. I really think cooling will be absolutly no problem.
I have a similar case (Antec sx1030) with the following components..
AMD2500 OCed to 3200 spec.
MSI K7N2-ILSR nF2
Ti4200 (317/585)I have (2) 80mm intake fans up front and (2) exhaust fans out back. A big help in cooling down the MoBo is the 120mm fan I have intake in the side of the case. My mobo temps dropped 6-7C since replacing the 80mm.
So I run 32-33C CPU (idle) and 29-30C SYSTEM. I use all Evercool (AOC) aluminum fans.
Noise doenst bother me either... About the dust, just be sure to keep plenty of canned air on hand and clean it once a week.. No worries.
josh
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im running an xp 2600 333 with a stick of 512 mb pc 3000 . have a volcano 10+ for cpu and artic silver on the heatsink and temps are usually around 36 C
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Do not have all your fans blow out, especially the side fan. The side fan must blow air toward the mobo.
Take a furnace filter or kitchen scratch pads and cut out round discs you can use as filters for your intake fans. Or don't do it, if you think it looks lame.
Your temps are entirely a matter of your room temp and your fan noise.
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Thanks guys.
I thought of a blowhole too but didn't think it would do much. I turned the side fan to blow out but as you say it may serve better to have it blow on the mobo. I may put a filter on the front and the side fans or to keep the airflow, dump the filters and check it periodicly with a can of air.
AMD rocks don't they. I writing this on a dell laptop w/pentium III 1.13G and it can't handle much but it's ok, but not to tweakable or run extreme 3-d.
Before I had a microstar board, sent it to msi to have it fixed and they returned it unfixed with no reply-so no more money from me, and I found that asus has a 3 year warranty with their stuff, just hope their CS
is better.Thanks!
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I'm using the same mobo except mine is the deluxe and I'm using a 2500+ Barton. My fan is a volcano 11 xaser. My current temps are sadly 42C. I'm not using AC3 yet, but plan on getting some. The worst part is that I have the side panel off the case. What's my problem?? BTW I have only the cpu overclocked to 2004mhz or 2700+. My rooms isn't very hot. Just a comfortable temp. I dunno. Thanx.
Nevin
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Before you rush out and buy arctic silver 3 go to the arctic silver website and look at the directions for applying it.
most amd chips come with a thin layer a parafin wax on the chip that must be removed before you use the cpu - when you use it it gets hot and the wax melts into the microscopic valleys in the chip afterwich ac3 would be useless on that chip.
I just bought my 2500+amd at newegg.com, they are on sale there.
kev
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I've never seen wax on a cpu Kev and am curious if you know of a link that discusses it.
Nevin I would not worry about a temp of 42C. If you ask a bunch of men how big their wanker is, and also what their cpu temps are, I'm not sure which one you'd get a more biased answer to. Also, cpu temps are very dependant on room temp, which means time of day, and fan speed, and heatsink manufacturing quality. Volcanos vary in manufacturing quality.
So what it comes down to is that it may be best to just assume that yours is adequate if it seems to work properly.
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OH, about to leave...though i don't recomend it my son leaves his case side off and uses a house fan to blow in there.
me, if i was concerned i would pick-up 2-120mm case fans mount one with a filter in the front bottom to pull air in and the other in the top rear to blow air out.
Since your side pannel comes off, i would put a hole there (in the pannel) for a 80mm or another 120mm fan positioned to blow onto the cpu & mobo.
kev
I read elsewhere in this forum that
amd processors kill zone is 85C
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johnoh,
I just purchased a retail box cpu (the 2500+) and i can see the wax but wouldn't have noticed it without the instructions for application at http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
in the #2 application instructions.I think the wax/pad is a new thing...i never noticed it before.
kev
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Kev it sounds like you're referring to the thermal pad that comes on amd heatsinks, which you gotta remove if you're going to use paste. But that's on the sink... I thought you were talking about the cpu die having something on it. Or is it possible amd is putting the pad on the cpu now instead of the sink? That would be a new one on me.
Hey was your 2500+ sink copper? I hear amd is including copper sinks with their retail box bartons now.
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johnoh,
You're absolutely right. When you said that i went to look again. i was tired when i read it the first time and must be now.
below is taken from ac3:ONLY Arctic Silver thermal compound should be between the processor core and the heatsink. Remove any thermal pads or other interface material from the heatsink before applying the Arctic Silver. Thermal pads can be scraped off with a plastic tool that will not scratch the bottom then the remnants can be removed with a xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, mineral spirits, or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.
Glad you pointed that out. i would've hurt my chip...it's the microscopic valeys in the hs.
smarty...
The k7 volcano 11+ is copper, that is why i bought it. I burned up too many chips with aluminum.
An aluminum heatsink came with the retail box chip but i'm gonna set it aside or take the fan off of it and use the volcano.
kev
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I have blow holes in both my machines this one is o.c.i think having the hot air exhausted that is at the top does help. even if just a little anything as far as getting rid of hot air to me is a good thing.
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