I have some general questions about Clockgen and I hope you guys could awnser them.

1. When I shutdown my computer and boot it up again my overclock is gone. Is this supposed to happen?

2. If yes then how could I "permenantize" it?

3. How high should/could I overclock with stock cooling and 3 case fans. CPU : 2.8 LGA 775 Prescott.

1) YES!
2) YES! If you do it in the bios.
3) Who Knows?

Hope that helps!

YO

In BIOS im really unsure of what im doing and I dont belive my BIOS has any page on which I could possibly over clock. The reason I used clock gen was because I read on these forums that it is impossible to overclock a 775 CPU's unless it is above a 3.2Ghz and on an Asus board as well. I do have a n Asus board but my CPU is only 2.8. Im really new to CPU overclocking so any ideas or help would be appreciated. The main reason I chose Clockgen was beacuse it was easy and I wouldnt have to fiddle around with voltages, mulitpliers and the like. So what should ne my next step?

In your bios, you should see something about FSB speed. Or your processor bus speed. I would think that you should be able to raise that up to match your clock gen setting. Then click whatever you have to, to save and exit the bios.

My best shot.

Good luck!

YO

Follow the directions (vague as they are....LOL)
Open Notepad and type in the perameters of your overclock. It should look something like this:

[CG-ICS950224]
FSB=112.5
AGP=155.8

Then save the file in the same folder as your ClockGen program and name it "SAVEFILE"
Now create a shortcut to your desktop for that file by rightclicking it and clicking send to desktop.
Now rightclick the desktop shortcut and click Copy.
Now click start/programs and right click Startup and click Open. Rightclick an open space and click paste. This should put the shortcut to your "savefile" in the startup folder. You're done!

The values of your savefile info is based on what version of clockgen you are using and the FSB to which it is stable. The example above is just what it should resemble.

MAKE CERTAIN your system is stable at the FSB you choose. Unlike a BIOS tweak, clockgen cannot be reversed if it doesn't work.

WoeWOeWoe!!!!!!!!!! krapee! What do you mean "clockgen cannot be reversed if it doesn't work." All he has to do is reboot. It's gone then. Right?

YO

I don't understand why you're using ClockGen to begin with...does your BIOS not support FSB adjustments? It would help if you gave the make/model of your board.

The BIOS setting may not be called FSB, it could be something like CPU Frequency. Simply raise it 5 MHz at a time, save the setting, reboot & take the system for a "test drive"...if it remains stable, go back to the BIOS & raise it another 5MHz. Keep repeating this until you run into stability issues...then you have the choice of either raising the CPU voltage (vcore) to stabilize the overclock, or backing off to your last stable setting.

You should be running PC3200 (or better) in dual channel mode. Make sure to run your CPU:RAM ratio at 1:1. Keep the default RAM timings while doing all this...you can experiment with them later. Lock the AGP/PCI bus at 66/33MHz.

Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200
Asus A9550 128MB/128-bit
Gamer Edition
WinME/WinXP Pro

is Clockgen a overclocking program ?

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40gb seagate HDD
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I cannot overclock using BIOS the options are greyed out. I beleive I have to unlock the Ratio Status thing but it is also greyed out if I can unlock it I should be able to overclock using the Ratio CMOS Setting which according to my manuel will allow me to "Set the ratio between the CPU Core clock and the Front Side Bus frequency.". I belive thats what I'm looking for but I have no idea how to unlock it as it is also greyed out.

To answer Jam's question as to why I'm using Clockgen, its becuase when I searched these forums for people overclocking thier 77 Prescotts I would find posts saying that is impossible unless it was above 3.2Ghz and on an Asus motherboard.
Posts from happekrapee on these threads : http://computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/11254.html
http://computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/11210.html

Also Im not running in dual channel becuase I have one stick of 512 and two of 256 both 3200. Is there a correlation with the RAM and CPU that I am missing? And if any one knows how to unlock the Ratio Status please tell me.

Don't confuse the CPU:DRAM ratio with the "Frequency Ratio". CPU:DRAM ratio is the correlation between the CPU bus & the RAM bus...if it's set to 1:1, both will run at the same bus speed. The Frequency Ratio is the multiplier setting. It is locked & cannot be changed. If you're running an 800FSB CPU & NOT running RAM in dual channel mode, you are hurting the performance. The CPU's bandwidth would be 6400MB/sec, but the RAM's would only be 3200MB/sec (that's why it's called PC3200). But if you run PC3200 in dual mode, you get 6400MB/sec (3200 x 2) & your system is in balance.

Like I said, if you'd post the make/model of your motherboard, one of us could have a look at the manual & help you to overclock the "right" way.

Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200
Asus A9550 128MB/128-bit
Gamer Edition
WinME/WinXP Pro

My motherboard is an Asus P5GD1-VM sorry for not posting it sooner. Yeah theres not much I can do about the dual channel thing other than take out the 512 stick but I think that overall its better to have a gig not in dual channel than 512 in dual channel am I right?

"I think that overall its better to have a gig not in dual channel than 512 in dual channel am I right?"

That really depends on what you use the system for, but I think you'd be doing yourself a favor by running dual channel. Here's what it says about it on the Asus website:

"Dual-channel DDR technology doubles the bandwidth of your system memory and hence boost the system performance to out perform any memory existing solutions in the market. System bottlenecks are eliminated with balanced architecture and peak bandwidths up."

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket775/p5gd1-vm/overview.htm

I see your board has integrated graphics...I hope you're not using it. If you are, you should invest in a PCI-E video card.

I'm getting your manual now, I'll have a look & post back later

Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200
Asus A9550 128MB/128-bit
Gamer Edition
WinME/WinXP Pro

Well, it looks like you got a high priced, no frills, low end microATX board with no overclocking features. There's not much you can do about it except experiment with different overclocking software or invest in a better board.

Asus A7N8X-X
1800+ @ 8.5 x 200MHz
768MB PC3200
Asus A9550 128MB/128-bit
Gamer Edition
WinME/WinXP Pro

Well thanks for the help. Could you recommend a new board and any idea when the new ATI Crossfire boards are coming out? BTW Im using a X600 XT. Interesting information on the dual channel thing I always thought of it as a boost instead of a norm guess it would be wise to buy some more ram considering how cheap it is.

Also for future reference what should I look for in a motherboard if I intend to overclok it in the future? What features would be helpful?

"what should I look for in a motherboard if I intend to overclok it in the future?"

0. You need a CPU that is unlocked.
1. Mobo that's got a BIOS with overclock options.
2. Reliable PSU.
3. Faster memory (ram modules).
4. Adequate cooling.
5. Some goodluck dosen't hurt too.

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Thanks for the advice Sabertooth!